User talk:Orf3us

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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Orf3us/Archive 1 on 2016-03-27.

Følgende søgning finder alle danske kirker uden nb etiketter (PT ~2200):

<nowiki>{{SPARQL|query=SELECT ?kirke ?kirkeLabel WHERE {

  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "da". }

  ?kirke wdt:P31 wd:Q16970.

  ?kirke wdt:P17 wd:Q35.

  FILTER(NOT EXISTS {

   ?kirke rdfs:label ?lang_label.

   FILTER((LANG(?lang_label)) = "nb")

  })

}}}</nowiki>

Hvis du så gemmer resultatet som csv og kører <nowiki>gawk -F, 'BEGIN {print "qid,Lnb"} $1 ~ /http:/ {sub(/^http.+entity\//,"",$1); print $1 "," $2}' søgning.csv > danskekirker.csv</nowiki>, får du nogle data, som du kan kopiere direkte ind i https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/#/ (Klik ""import csv commands" -> "run in background"). Du skal bruge en:awk til det sidste.

Hej Hjart, - tak for din vejledning. Jeg er ikke sikker på at jeg vet hvordan jeg kan gøre bruge af den, men jeg kigger på det.

Indsættelsen af ovenstående søgning fejlede. På f.eks. min egen diskussionsside ville der have været en knap under søgningen, som du bare kunne klikke på.

Prøv i stedet at indsætte følgende kode i "Query Service" i sideboksen:

SELECT ?kirke ?kirkeLabel WHERE {

  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "da". }

  ?kirke wdt:P31 wd:Q16970.

  ?kirke wdt:P17 wd:Q35.

  FILTER(NOT EXISTS {

   ?kirke rdfs:label ?lang_label.

   FILTER((LANG(?lang_label)) = "nb")

  })

}

I tillegg til å få korrigert dato på bokmålswikipedia så har vi da fått bidratt til at 6 andre språkwikier i allefall har en mulighet til å finne en så korrigert og referansebelagt fødselsdato som mulig. Dumt om wikipedia på bokmål skulle være den eneste med korrekt dato. Det er vel litt forskjell på gregoriansk og juliansk da. Oktoberrevolusjonen f.eks ;)@Nsaa

Ja, det ble løst fint med de referanser vi har. Takk for at du følger med.

Hi, note that not all images are suitable to be used as image (P18) in people items. There are more specific properties for images not showing the person, like coat of arms image (P94) or image of grave (P1442), so it is much better to add them to the specific properties and not as image (P18).

Hi Jklamo, that is perfectly correct. Now the items that you have reversed are being used in a Norwegian infobox and since there is no other proper picture of these persons I have chosen to use their coat of arms. One day someone hopefully will upload a proper picture of these persons and the coat of arms can be exchanged. I see that you have now removed and changed the picture to "no value" which has resulted in an error-message in the Norwegian infoboxes on the Norwegian wikipedia saying: "[[Fil:Lua-feil i Modul:WikidataBilde, linje 62: attempt to index field 'datavalue' (a nil value).||frameless]]". If you really find this neccessary, I will remove the infoboxes from these articles so that they we will not have to look at error-messages in the infoboxes. That is of course a shame, since wikidata is a really helpful tool. Regards,

Hi, I understand, but currently there is no consensus to add these pictures as P18, mainly users from dewiki are very sensitive about this issue and removing all pictures like that (coat of arms, graves without portrait, etc.). P18 is very popular property and it is not easy to satisfy users from multiple wikis. As result for some items there are multiple adds and removes conducted by distinctive users, novalue is a bit dirty way to prevent these behaviour.

Instead of removing infoboxes I recommend to modify infobox code in your wiki to be able to handle novalue and even show P94 or P1442 in case, where there is not P18 (or there is novalue) in the items. That is the far more cleanest way to deal with this. You can remove novalue as well (I will not revert that change), but if you replace it with coa picture be prepared that someone other may remove it in future.

Thank you for your answer. I have seen on your discussion page that someone is concerned about this issue, and you are now continuing that procedure. Alternatively I can just add the coat of arms picture in the local infobox, but if someone then uploads a proper picture in the future unfortunately it will not be changed. The "no value" gives an error-message in the infoboxes on NO.wikipedia, so that will have to be fixed. Is there consensus on adding "no value" to P18? Regards

Hi, I hope I can write in English better than your Spanish. I really don't know if this family really existed; maybe they were members of the minor aristocracy and descended from the Dukes of Scleswig-Holstein. But it's for sure they didn't have sovereign or territory authority.

In that case, their notability depends entirely in the particular importance of each member of the family. Its's not a noble house, it's a family like yours and mine, so the article of the pretended house shouldn't exist. So the biography of each of their members depend entirely on what they've don (and they didn't do anything notable) and the reliable sources (which ascend to the amount of zero). Make your own conclusions.

Thank you for calling my atention on those hoaxes. Have a nice week. --Marcelo

I almost made it. But I made a mistake: it should be "depends entirely on what they've done". It's been so many years since I've practiced writing in English for the last time...

I am sorry for contacting you in English but thank you for your fine reply.

I know very well that at family with this name did not exist. The Schleswig-Holsten-Sonderburg and Beck family are descendants of the Danish king, and forefathers of the Glücksborgs of today, but none of these families used the name Schöner. The family members in this short article do not exist either. You too have a nice week.

Hi, I see that you have reverted my edit at Shirakaba Gakuen High School. May I ask why? 高等学校 means "senior high school" in English. Vi kunne godt tatt dette på norsk, men det er kanskje noen som ikke kan norsk som vil lese dette. Mvh., Mycomp  

Hi! At the footer of the school's homepage http://www.shirakaba.ac.jp it says "Shirakabagakuen High School". There is a discussion of names in infoboxes from wikidata on the Norwegian Wikipedia where the word "senior" was discussed, which is why I tried to omit it. I have no strong feelings about this, but please accept my apology for the change.

No need to apologize :) In in the UK and Australia, sometimes "high school" is used in the names of schools for children aged from eleven to 18, so to avoid any misunderstanding it is best to have "senior", I think. And 高等学校 is a school for grades 10-12 only. Many Japanese are not aware of this, and use the American English "high school" instead of "senior high school". Ha en fin helg! Mycomp

For items describing humans, please use instance of (P31)  human (Q5) instead of, for example, instance of (P31)  female (Q6581072). That information needs to be stored in sex or gender (P21). Thanks!

Thank you for telling me, I have changed my last edits, and I hope I did it right.

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