User talk:Natharchives

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Best regards! Multichill (talk) 20:48, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec paintings[edit]

Not sure if you found Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec already. https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/painters/index.php?collection=Q2338135 is a bit of a clunky, but fast tool to create the missing painters. Here is the manual. Multichill (talk) 20:48, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Multichill,I will check the manual. I generate "manual" wikidata from this list and other with mixmatch but i'm beginner now on Wikidata. --Natharchives (talk) 20:51, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We all started as beginners. Don't be afraid about making mistakes and feel free to ask questions if something is unclear. The suggestions I linked above are all based on the Mix'n'match database.

I see on your userpage that you work for the mnbaq. Can you ask around why links like https://collections.mnbaq.org/en/artwork/600008005 are broken? These used to work, but stopped working some time ago. Multichill (talk) 20:58, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ! I learn all day with wikidata ! These links with en come from the english version of the website (old version). Since novembre 2018, I think the english version of our collection on line is not available. I will check for more informations next week and will come back to you. Do you see this link with the image of the artist from wikidata :)

https://collections.mnbaq.org/fr/oeuvre/600026980 --Natharchives (talk) 21:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's the French version, would love to see the English version working again. Multichill (talk) 21:29, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the english version will be develop in few months again. Thank you for your tools ! I use it for create some new Wikidata painters.--Natharchives (talk) 21:24, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Multichill, I do a lot of progress for the paintings collection of MNBAQ (Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec). Could you explain to me the difference between Inventory Number (P217) and Catalog Number (P528) for paintings ? Which one is better to use in this project ? I saw both on use and I dont know the difference ? Thanks again for your assistance.--Natharchives (talk) 22:59, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Natharchives, good news! If you use {{Ping|Multichill}} I'll probably get a notification otherwise I might miss your messages.

inventory number (P217) (US English: accession number) is the identifier assigned by the collection holder. For example The Night Watch (Q219831) is part of two collections (owner and loan) and has inventory number SK-C-5 (Rijksmuseum) & SA 7392 (Amsterdam Museum). Anyone can start a catalog. For The Night Watch (Q219831) you can see part of numerous catalogs. When I import a museum collection I always add the inventory numbers. The combination of inventory number (P217) and collection (P195) should be unique and prevents me from creating duplicate items. Looking at Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec, all the paintings have an inventory number already. Hope that explains it. Multichill (talk) 17:57, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Multichill, I understand very well your explanations. That's why the collection of the MNBAQ is not compilated in this list of number of catalogued because the request use (P528) and not (P217) : Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top collections by number of catalogued paintings.

But I saw the collection of the MNBAQ in this list with (P217) Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Top_collections

Yeah, Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top collections by number of catalogued paintings might be a bit confusing. inventory number (P217) coverage is quite good, see Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Location/Canada/Missing inventory number for the ones without it. The coverage is so high, I don't even include it in Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Property statistics. Multichill (talk) 22:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

{{Ping|Multichill}} Again, thank you for your assistance. The tools you develop are very useful and accurate. I learn a lot since I discover Sum of all paintings. My motivation is high to work on this project.--Natharchives (talk) 22:11, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Multichill: Hi Multichill, I will complete the 2 missing wikidata elements for the MNBAQ painting project authorities of Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec. Two particular cases: It is about a painter of which I have no info except his name: Priscille and a collective painting carried out by pupils of a secondary school. Huge thanks for your help throughout this project.--Natharchives (talk) 12:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Bureau[edit]

J'ai un petit doute quand au lieu de naissance, mais je connais sa mère. Que je vérifierai si l'affirmation est exacte. --Fralambert (talk) 15:05, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merci Fralambert. Nous avons aussi cette information: https://collections.mnbaq.org/fr/artiste/600009291. Je vais aussi faire corriger le Saint-Ubald avec un e selon la Commission toponymie du Québec sur notre portail.

Fralambert J'ai une question pour toi ! Les villes fusionnées... souvent leur historique de fondation remonte uniquement à l'année de la fusion mais pourtant les villes existent (année de fondation) depuis des années. Exemple: Baie-Saint-Paul. Quand j'ajoute ce lieu de naissance pour des artistes du 18e siècle, ça fait une erreur --Natharchives (talk) 15:47, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Salut, désolé j'avais pas vu me message, dans ce cas, ce que je fait c'est que l'on peu ajouter la date de fondation du lieu avec le qualificatif inception (P571), comme qui est fait dans Trois-Rivières (Q44012). En passant, merci pour la Busteed House (Q24034970), la rajouté la destruction comme événement (sourcé en plus). :( --Fralambert (talk) 13:13, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merci Fralambert Je ne sais pas comment te mentionner dans une discussion pour que tu vois ton nom.... C'est une triste nouvelle pour le patrimoine gaspésien.... Merci pour l'ajout ! Merci aussi pour l'info concernant le qualificatif P571. C'est moins mon champ d'expertise. Je vais regarder le tout attentivement. Bien contente de ta réponse. --Natharchives (talk) 14:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Là ça a marché! C'est que le modèle ne notifie pas une fois que la discussion est publié, le mieux est de faire une nouvelle ligne avec {{Ping}}. ;) Bon, les nouveaux Projet:Outils de discussion (en bêta sur frwiki) devrait faciliter la notification. --Fralambert (talk) 15:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Fralambert: Salut Fralambert, Peux-tu vérifier si c'est ok pour ma modification dans Baie-Saint-Paul https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q139231 ? J'ai pris le modèle de Trois-Rivières comme suggéré. Immense merci pour la validation ! salutations --Natharchives (talk) 14:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

C'est parfait, rien à redire. :) --Fralambert (talk) 15:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

National Museum of World Cultures (Q17153751)[edit]

Hi! As you might know I recently added all artists in the collection of National Museum of World Cultures (Q17153751) to Wikidata. You can find the list of Canadian artists here: Wikidata:CopyClear/Museum van Wereldculturen/Canadian creators. Would be great if in the longer term, the biographical information of those artists wll expand and interlinked with other collections. Curious about you ideas --Hannolans (talk) 11:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hannolans, Thank you for this considerable work. I crossed data from your museum a few times. I started adding the MNBAQ collection for these artists with the property: P6379 / Q233813. Do you think it would be possible to add a column at the end of your table with this property. So I could view those already completed.--Natharchives (talk) 14:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! I have added that column, but also two lists. --Hannolans (talk) 16:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- - Wikidata:CopyClear/Museum van Wereldculturen/Canadian creators NMVW not in MNBAQ
  - Wikidata:CopyClear/Museum van Wereldculturen/Canadian creators NMVW also in MNBAQ

I see links like https://collections.mnbaq.org/fr/artiste/600011623 Is 600011623 not a property in WIkidata? --Hannolans (talk) 16:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Magic as your Wikidata queries. It will help me a lot. I am junior in my Wikidata learning. I will be happy to complement your artists! I hope you understand my beginner English.--Natharchives (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hannolans: Hi Hannolans, I think it's the same artist ? : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84495515 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55218141 ? --Natharchives (talk) 20:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hannolans: and Natharchives. Good idea for the property, I proposed Wikidata:Property proposal/MNBAQ artist ID. --Fralambert (talk) 15:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Award[edit]

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		Thanks for all the good work on Wikidata !

P9091[edit]

Enfin, il y a MNBAQ ID (P9091)! --Fralambert (talk) 22:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fralambert C'est Noël! Immense merci pour cette surprise. C'est vraiment apprécié!--Natharchives (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dominique Alba (Q55596688)[edit]

Bonjour Natharchives, je signale aux soins des femmes en rouge, cette PàS sur l'architecte participant au projet du grand Paris. [1], [2], [3],[4], (en) [5]. Merci.--DDupard (talk) 15:04, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Livernois & Bienvenu (Q72771228) et Studio Livernois (Q44322237)[edit]

(Pardon: mon français est, malheureusement, très mauvais.) Je vois que vous avez téléchargé quelques photos par "Livernois & Bienvenu". À votre avis, est-ce qu'il y a une différence entre "Livernois & Bienvenu" et "Studio Livernois"? J'ai crée une catégorie pour des photos de "Livernois & Bienvenu" (commons:Category:Livernois & Bienvenu) mais, après l'avoir crée, j'ai découvert "Studio Livernois". Il me semble que "Livernois & Bienvenu" soit un autre nom pour "Studio Livernois", mais je ne suis pas sûr. Merci! AleatoryPonderings (talk) 03:13, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour AleatoryPonderings Merci pour la création de la catégorie. Je ne sais pas encore comment le faire! Livernois & Bienvenu est une période précise du Studio Livernois. Donc ça sera utile d'avoir une catégorie pour Livernois & Bienvenu spécifiquement. Est-ce possible que ce soit une sous-catégorie de Studio Livernois. Merci encore pour ce beau travail. Natharchives (talk) 12:54, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour @AleatoryPonderings Voici une idée des grandes périodes du studio Livernois :

de 1854 à 1865, par le fondateur Jules-Isaïe Benoît dit Livernois (1830-1865);

de 1866 à 1873, par Élise L’Heureux, veuve de Jules-Isaïe, et son gendre, Louis Fontaine dit Bienvenu;

de 1874 à 1898, par Jules-Ernest Livernois (1851-1933), fils de Jules-Isaïe et Élise;

de 1899 à 1952, par Jules Livernois, fils de Jules-Ernest et Louise Larocque.

source: https://catherineferlandhistorienne.com/2019/03/08/elise-lheureux-photographe-quebec-19e-siecle/

Il y a déjà une catégorie pour Jules-Ernest Livernois: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Jules-Ernest_Livernois Natharchives (talk) 13:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Presqu'un siècle d'histoire! Peut-être je dois écrire en:Studio Livernois pour en savoir plus …… AleatoryPonderings (talk) 13:23, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That will be great if you are doing that! (sorry my english is beginning)! Natharchives (talk) 13:26, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New family names[edit]

Hello Natharchives, do you need help? Then please have a look here >>> Wikidata:WikiProject Names/Properties#Family name. Best regards --HarryNº2 (talk) 08:16, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you Harry for the reference! Natharchives (talk) 16:16, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recreation of deleted item[edit]

I have deleted Q116272356 because it appears to be a recreation of deleted item Q113844746 . This means that we have already made a decision that this entity does not satisfy our notability criteria. Please do not recreate deleted items, as they are likely to be deleted again immediately, and your account may be blocked. To appeal this decision, see Wikidata:Guide to requests for undeletion. Bovlb (talk) 23:40, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]