User talk:Daniel Mietchen/Archive/2016

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Hi Daniel! I have seen you contributing to a lot at pages linked to https://www.wikidata.org/?curid=24028442# (as for today titled Wikipedia versions but intended in general for WMF projects). I would be happy if you can review the properties of these pages, create the missing Wikibook and Wikiversity project pages, comment on user:I18n/sandbox (where you may find many usefull queries) and comment there with new / additional ideas. Best regards Gangleri also aka I18n (talk) 15:36, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks — it's good that you're working on this so systematically. It's not really my focal area, but I will keep it in mind should I stumble across such items in the future. Cheers, --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 19:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi! I want to let you know that the number of Wikidata:Database reports/WMF projects has increased to more then 385. You may be interested in adding labels and descriptions in other languages, follow the discussion at property talk:P218#whats next, property talk:P219, property talk:P220, property talk:P1800 and comment there. Best regards Gangleri also aka I18n (talk) 02:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC) / I18n (talk) 10:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 04:13, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your work and your time! Please see: m:Talk:Facebook pages. I added more property related queries at user:I18n/sandbox#property_Wikimedia_database_name. Regards I18n (talk) 09:29, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi at user:I18n/sandbox#qP275 is a query about the presence of copyright license (P275) at items which are EITHER WMF projects OR Wikimedia chapters.
Wikimedia database name AND NO license (P275) : claim[1800] AND noclaim[275]&props=275
Can you please add the required licence at the WMF project items only? Thanks in advance! I18n (talk) 03:54, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Labs seems to have problems again, so autolist didn't show anything to me. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 20:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

duplicated items

There are a lot of duplicates at page Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P356#"Unique value" violations created by you. Would you mind to merge them? -- VlSergey (трёп) 06:32, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Спасибо. Я все осталные соединил. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:56, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Новые появились... — VlSergey (трёп) 10:57, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Спасибо. ✓ Done. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 23:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Help decide the future of Wikimania

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).

After reviewing the consultation, we'd like to hear your feedback on on this survey.

In addition, feel free to share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference, including Wikimania. We plan to compile and share back outcomes from this consultation in February.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk), from Community Resources 22:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Last December, I invited you to share your views on the value of Wikimedia conferences and the planning process of Wikimania. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared this report summarizing your feedback and important changes for Wikimania starting in 2018 as an experiment. Feedback and comments are welcome at the discussion page. Thank you so much for your participation. I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, 22:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Missing label onQ22122369

You (presumably with a bot) added Complete genome sequence of Salmonella enterica serovar Typhimurium LT2 (Q22122369), but failed to copy the paper title into the label. Please check if this happened to others, and fix them. Thanks for adding all these papers, though! JesseW (talk) 23:14, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for checking this. It's not a bot but a tool, which works with the CrossRef API that simply does not list the title in some cases, including this one. I have added the English label and the title (P1476) statement manually in most of such cases but may have missed a few. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 11:16, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Wikidata user study

Dear Daniel Mietchen,
I am a researcher of the Web and Internet Science group of the University of Southampton.
Together with a group of other researchers from the same University, we are currently conducting a research aiming to discover how newcomers become full participants into the Wikidata community. We are interested in understanding how the usage of tools, the relationships with the community, and the knowledge and application of policy norms change from users' first approach to Wikidata to their full integration as fully active participants.
This study will take place as an interview, either by videotelephony, e.g. Skype, phone, or e-mail, according to the preference of the interviewees. The time required to answer all the questions will likely be about an hour. Further information can be found on the Research Project Page Becoming Wikidatians: evolution of participation in a collaborative structured knowledge base.
Any data collected will be treated in the strictest confidentiality, no personal information will be processed for the purpose of the research. The study, which has submission number 20117, has received ethical approval following the University of Southampton guidelines.
We aim at gathering about 20 participants, chosen among experienced Wikidata users who authored a large number of contributions.
Should you be interested in taking part or wish to receive further information, you can contact us by writing to the e-mail address ap1a14+wikidata_user_study@ecs.soton.ac.uk.
Thank you very much, your help will be much appreciated!
--Alessandro Piscopo (talk) 11:21, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Babel

Hi, would you mind changing "no" to "nb" in your babel box? We're trying to get rid of "no", see phab:T102533 :) Danmichaelo (talk) 21:12, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Done. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:41, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Plant science

You've added a bunch of articles which have main subject (P921) Plant Science (Q15746538)  View with Reasonator View with SQID. But it is wrong. How a magazine can be a main topic? I planned to remove all such statements, but may be you would like to adjust them somehow? --Infovarius (talk) 14:25, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for checking, Infovarius. This is a known bug. Let's see what Magnus thinks. In any case, I always try to remove the false positives, but I am aware I have missed some, and I would appreciate if you could help sort out such cases, or ping me when you see them. Thanks! --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 09:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Ok. But what can we use here instead? @Succu, Brya: botany (Q441)? --Infovarius (talk) 13:41, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I just started botany (Q24454422) for that purpose. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 19:56, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
And what's the difference from botany (Q441)? --Infovarius (talk) 14:20, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Plant science includes botany and agriculture. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Bot account

Hi, have you considered using a bot account? Almost whenever I visit Recent Changes, a majority of the edits are yours. Danmichaelo (talk) 18:33, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

I have not really considered this, since I am neither a developer (albeit learning Python) nor familiar enough with any of the existing bot frameworks that I would be able to do these kinds of edits via a bot. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 00:14, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Bot accounts are also for semi-automatic (human-assisted) editing. Personally I try to use my bot account when I need to do lots of repetitive edits using tools like quickstatements, that I don't expect anyone to question. When the number of edits are relatively low, or when I think it's a good idea that the edits show up in other people's watchlists, I use my non-bot account. Whether you want to use the same approach or not is of course up to you, there's no policy or consensus on this on wikidata.
Something else: I've been curious about what approach you're using for adding articles. Is it to go through all PMCID (P932) systematically in increasing order? Danmichaelo (talk) 12:47, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about how you use that bot account. I see your point and will give it some more thought.
As for prioritizing the PMCID (P932), there is not much significance in the ordering (other than making quality control easier), and I am actually using a mix of criteria:
Happy to dig deeper into any of that. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 00:20, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Block

Hey, I'm really sorry to block you but you are flooding everything by running the bot with really high speed. You caused disruption in services including ORES. Please mark yourself a bot or put a reasonable throttle Amir (talk) 08:05, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Please answer and I will unblock you immediately Amir (talk) 08:53, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
It wasn't a bot but I had multiple instances of quick statements open. Will look into getting a bot flag, perhaps for a separate account. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 15:39, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
That still counts as a bot. Please do not do this again. In 20:25 last night, you made 210 edits. This is by far bigger than anything bots are allowed to do. Amir (talk) 17:07, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
I started a bot request. Btw, I had not responded this morning because I thought I could not post while blocked. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 17:10, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

your edits of scientific articles

I think you do great work, but I think it's wrong to add volume (P478), page(s) (P304) and issue (P433) to the item. IMHO a article doesn't have a volume, a pagenumber or an issue, the journal has it. So I think, we must add this properties as qualifiers to published in (P1433) like I do here: [1]. --Balû (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

I see your point, but I don't think your way of doing it is the only option here. I am following the model outlined at Wikidata:WikiProject Source MetaData/Bibliographic metadata for scholarly articles in Wikidata. The role of qualifiers has indeed not been specified in much detail there, so your input on this would be welcome. Having these components of bibliographic metadata as properties rather than qualifiers makes reuse of this information — e.g. in a citation template on a Wikipedia article citing the scientific article — more straightforward. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 20:17, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I think, my proposed way is the only right way. What would you do with this properties, if the article was published in more than one journal? --Balû (talk) 02:39, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
That's an interesting special case, which hasn't really been discussed yet (as far as I can tell), so thanks for bringing it up. My hunch is that this is rare enough that it could be modeled by setting up two different items (either way) and linking them through something like said to be the same as (P460). --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 02:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
@Balû: Ich hab mal ein Testset dafuer angelegt. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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Scientific articles 2

I was asked to add, next to the NL-description, also the English. I see you did quite some German descriptions already. I do not know how much work it is with Quick Statements, but if it's easier for you to do it with my python script, then let me know. I can actually add any language that is needed (as long as I get the correct translation for scientific article ;-). There are about 275.000 such items right now, but maybe they will upload some more. Edoderoo (talk) 16:37, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

@Edoderoo: Thanks. Yes, please add English and German to your bot for instances of scientific article. There should be relatively few left to do right now, since I have just gone over them again. Most of these actually share the title with an item that has a description like "scientific article", as listed here (based on error messages I got from Quick Statements). How do you treat such cases with your bot? Once we have a workflow for them, I am happy to discuss other languages. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:45, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Interesting .. how do you decide if it's preprint or an article. My script would either (try to) put "scientific article" in all of them, while the second time it will would not be written to the database due to the error that is generated, because the combination title/description must be unique. But if I know which one is the preprint and which one the article, I can prevent the error. Can there be a third instance with the same article name, or do they usually come in pairs of two? Edoderoo (talk) 07:38, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@Edoderoo: I think I've used "preprint" just once as a description (in Model-based projections of Zika virus infections in childbearing women in the Americas (Q22809004)), and this could be inferred from the DOI prefix "10.1101", which belongs to bioRxiv (Q19835482). Technically, I could thus have removed Q22809004 and Model-based projections of Zika virus infections in childbearing women in the Americas (Q26250276) from the above-mentioned list, but I left them in there as a reminder to think a bit more about how to model preprints, perhaps in the context of a redefinition of corrigendum / erratum (P2507) into a more generic "update" property.
There are multiple reasons why two Wikidata items about scholarly articles might have the same title, including:
Figuring out which item belongs to which of the above categories will probably require human interaction for some time to come, which is why I put them on that list. For cases of articles evolving over time, I have started to add the publication date into the description, and for articles published across different journals, the journal names. That probably warrents further discussion — suggestions welcome. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:35, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Fehlfunktion Bot

Hallo, dein Bot legt gerade massenhaft Items ohne Label an, finde ich nicht so toll. --Balû (talk) 07:15, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Ich habe einen Antrag auf Blockieren, gestellt, da du wohl momentan nicht online bist. Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Research_Bot --Balû (talk) 07:25, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Alle Items des gegenwaertigen Botlaufs sind als instance of (P31) von scholarly article (Q13442814) gekennzeichnet und haben eine PubMed ID (P698). Um die Labels kuemmere ich mich separat. Ich habe jetzt aber Beschreibungen mit eingefuegt. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 11:55, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Ok, es sieht nur sehr seltsam aus, wenn da viele Artikel ohne Label angelegt werden. Wenn du das im Griff hast, ist es auch kein Problem :-) --Balû (talk) 12:32, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

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HTML characters in descriptions

Hi. Many of the descriptions you recently created contain masked HTML entities, especially & (for "&"), e.g. [2], [3]. Please check your tools or sources. Thank you! --YMS (talk) 18:46, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I can't do much about the tools or sources, but I am keeping an eye on such things on the basis of SPARQL queries and fixing them in batches. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 20:27, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

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