Talk:Q732577
Autodescription — publication (Q732577)
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Musical releases[edit]
Hi VIGNERON, musical release (Q2031291) is currently a subclass of publication (Q732577), which makes sense to me. But I don't really think that every musical release (Q2031291) is a written work (Q47461344). This is the reason I removed subclass of (P279):written work (Q47461344). Apart from this: version, edition or translation (Q3331189) is a subclass of publication (Q732577). Given the statement that every publication is a written work that would make every edition a work (which seems to me to contradict the model given at Wikidata:WikiProject_Books). -Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:36, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Valentina.Anitnelav: yes, I'm sadly and deeply aware that the situation is complicated and not ideal but that even more a reason to tread carefully. The whole ontology should be looked thoroughly and referenced. And at the very least the constraint on described by source (P1343) should be change (after a discussion) before braking it. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 09:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- @VIGNERON:, I changed the statement to subclass of (P279):work (Q386724) (this was the item's status till April 2018 [1]). Now not every musical album is a written work (and there should be no constraint violations with described by source (P1343)). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:59, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Valentina.Anitnelav: ok thanks, that's acceptable for now (indeed no more constraint violations that I see) but I still think we should work to have a better and stronger ontology based on references. @Tacsipacsi: for information. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 10:03, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- @VIGNERON:, I changed the statement to subclass of (P279):work (Q386724) (this was the item's status till April 2018 [1]). Now not every musical album is a written work (and there should be no constraint violations with described by source (P1343)). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:59, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Organization?[edit]
@Infovarius: Could you speak to why you reverted my addition of "instance of > organization"? I added it because publications are a type of organization, and dinner I was getting a type constraint warning trying to add affiliation (P1416) to a yearbook. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:24, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @Sdkb:! Because 1) "type of organization" is not equal to "organization". 2) I can't imagine how any publication (i.e. some mathematical preprint) can be an instance (or even subclass) of social entity. And sorry, I didn't get your last sentence. --Infovarius (talk) 11:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)