Talk:Q39546
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Autodescription — physical tool (Q39546)
description: physical item that can be used to achieve a goal
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subclass of product[edit]
I removed <subclass of (P279)> product (Q2424752) since Arkalochori Axe (Q792623) is surely a physical tool (Q39546), but not a product (Q2424752). Regards, --Marsupium (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- @Marsupium: reverted, how is the Arkalochori Axe not a product (thing produced by labor or effort, result of an act or a process)? Also, removing it adds hundreds of items to Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P1092.--Underlying lk (talk) 11:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- OK, it depends on what is understood by product (Q2424752). Cf. Talk:Q2424752#Meaning_of_the_Item. That might be a better place to discuss this. I think we should better use artificial physical object (Q15222213) as a superclass and assign product (Q2424752) to artificial objects indeed ”offered to a market“ (en:Product (business)). --Marsupium (talk) 14:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- Arkalochori Axe (Q792623) had value at some point in time it was a product (Q2424752) as weapon,
- now it has value due to uniqueness. It may satisfy need in exhibitions; product (Q2424752) again d1g (talk) 07:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry for responding only now! I'm still sceptical if it was ever "offered to a market". --Marsupium (talk) 17:20, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- Surely at least a few tools have been constructed but never traded. Apart from individuals or groups who make tools and use them themselves, there are instances of communities that make and use tools but don't have commerce. So I agree that product (Q2424752) can be removed. Ghouston (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- I guess it depends how you look at the relationship. Does saying that tools are a subclass of product mean that every tool that ever existed has been traded at some point? That's obviously not true. Or does it mean that every tool that has ever existed could potentially be traded, even if it's a one off item? It's much like assigning a subclass of property (Q1400881) or goods (Q28877), it's not very informative in any case. Ghouston (talk) 09:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Different type of tools[edit]
See Talk:Q35968258 for info. --Infovarius (talk) 12:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Description[edit]
"physical item that can be used to achieve a goal". How about "non-physical item that can be used to achieve a goal"? --Fractaler (talk) 10:04, 16 November 2017 (UTC)