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Autodescription — Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507)
description: variety of Arabic spoken in Uzbekistan
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I'm fairly positive that this should be merged with Q50948445. "Uzbek Arabic" appears no where in academics except in reference to a written script (rather than a spoken language). The Central Asian Arabic is a more established term that broadly refers to the surviving Arabic-language dialects in southern Uzbekistan. Also, some of the Wikipedia entries linked here (Urdu, for example) are already titled along the lines of "Central Asian Arabic" --عباد ديرانية (talk) 23:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC).
Hello @Pamputt:, what you think? as your edits was essential. Best --Alaa :)..! 00:11, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- @علاء: actually, there are Central Asian Arabic (Q50948445), Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507) and Uzbeki Arabic (Q21661425). From Glottolog, I would say both Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507) and Uzbeki Arabic (Q21661425) are subclass of (P279) of Central Asian Arabic (Q50948445) so I would not merge everything in Central Asian Arabic (Q50948445). About Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507) and Uzbeki Arabic (Q21661425), I do not know what do to because these languages are identified by the same identifier on Glottolog. Pamputt (talk) 07:52, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Pamputt: Thank you for your reply. Kindly check this source by Routledge (pp. 127), which was what motivated me to request this merge. From what I have gathered from there (and from a few others sources that I'm using to improve the Arabic article), "Central Asia Arabic" comprises two subclasses grouped together under one termː those being Uzbeki Arabic (Q21661425) and Bukhara Arabic. Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507), on the other hand, appears to be a generic term, because both of the two dialects of Central Asian Arabic are restricted to Uzbekistan, and both of which are heavily influenced by Uzbek language. So far, it would seem to me that Central Asian Arabic and Uzbek Arabic are synonyms, but I'll continue to look information up as I dig my through sources --عباد ديرانية (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC).
- @عباد ديرانية: I am not confotable to merge because sources diverge. So I would propose to use said to be the same as (P460) on Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507) and Central Asian Arabic (Q50948445) adding the book by Routledge as source (and possible other sources in the future). Pamputt (talk) 09:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Pamputt: Thank you for your reply. Kindly check this source by Routledge (pp. 127), which was what motivated me to request this merge. From what I have gathered from there (and from a few others sources that I'm using to improve the Arabic article), "Central Asia Arabic" comprises two subclasses grouped together under one termː those being Uzbeki Arabic (Q21661425) and Bukhara Arabic. Uzbeki Arabic (Q3399507), on the other hand, appears to be a generic term, because both of the two dialects of Central Asian Arabic are restricted to Uzbekistan, and both of which are heavily influenced by Uzbek language. So far, it would seem to me that Central Asian Arabic and Uzbek Arabic are synonyms, but I'll continue to look information up as I dig my through sources --عباد ديرانية (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC).