Talk:Q2268906

Superset

binary relation (Q130901) (set of ordered pairs). So, semantic relation (Q2268906) is a set? --Fractaler (talk) 12:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I see more then two involved entities here. So? Sänger (talk) 16:58, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean semantic relation (Q2268906) is homonym (Q160843)? --Fractaler (talk) 17:50, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I look at one of two articles in wikipedias about this item, that's at least 50% the correct definition, and 100% the correct definition in one language. I don't care about your useless ambition to somehow define the world with wikidata, that's completely futile nonsense. I won't gi9ve you any hint for your useless and imho destructive crusade to interlink everything with such nonsensical rubbish. Sänger (talk) 19:00, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I just quote the definition from the English description. Can you give "100% the correct definition"? --Fractaler (talk) 08:10, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

No, I can't. I can give you the definition in my first language (Q36870), if it's slightly different in other languages, so be it. Especially in such rather little used words with probably very special meanings you should be native speaker to give proper definitions. I can't, so this is nothing that can be decided. What's the problem? The Innuit have tons of names for snow (Q7561), where German only has a hand full (if you count generously), the definition varies from language to language. C'est la vie ! 11:09, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, people who encounter less snow will not have a short name for the relevant facility or process. But this does not mean that this short name can not be painted longer (as it now is for a large number of biological objects and processes). We have 1 world. You can describe it by 1 formula, and you can describe it in a philosophical tract on 100_500 pages.

That's why there should be a single frame of reference (tool), which every user uses from any point of the universe. And if he needs to synchronize his idea with a stranger, he first asks: what is it (ie, you need to name subsets, sets or supersets)? Can you specify this in the language of the Wikidata (by items): superset (Q15882515) of the set semantic relation (Q2268906) is ...? Set binary relation (Q130901) is subset (Q177646) of the set ...? --Fractaler (talk) 12:25, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

There is no such thing as the language of the Wikidata, there are many different languages in Wikidata. To simplify and restrict it to only one language is nothing, I would condone. Sänger (talk) 12:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

language (Q34770): "particular system of communication, usually named for the region or peoples that use it". The machine does not understand the human language (Q20162172) (has Q36987233). But it "understands" (can answer the question if the answer exists, those, is not equal to 42, 42 (Q1879675)) the language of Wikidata (has Q36987817). --Fractaler (talk) 13:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)