Talk:Q22675015

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Autodescription — type of quantum particle (Q22675015)

description: type or family of quantum mechanical particles, often subatomic but also may be unrelated to atoms
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Merge? --Fractaler (talk) 14:09, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We can't merge a class (quantum particle or subatomic particle) with its metaclass (type of quantum particle or type of subatomic particle), although in theory we could delete the metaclass DavRosen (talk) 01:02, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(Edit)Perhaps you meant you want to merge subatomic particle (Q177013) with quantum particle (Q28693603) (rather than with the present type of quantum particle (Q22675015))? Subatomic particle refers to its size or mass, or being a constituent of an atom; a quantum mechanical particle refers to the way it is being treated and studied (using quantum field theory etc.) and these are not necessarily part of an atom, nor are they necessarily smaller in size or mass than an atom. In principle one can use QFT etc. to study heavy elementary or composite particles, entire atoms, molecules, metals, or crystals, which are certainly not "subatomic". I got a "thanks" from User:Arbnos, I believe it was for making this distinction, although this doesn't mean everyone will agree. I thought it was enough to have the statement "said to be the same as" subatomic particle since I understand that not all will agree. Perhaps more importantly, it is not correct to say that a subatomic particle is the union of elementary and composite particles, since many composite particles (mentioned above) are not subatomic in any reasonable sense. By having the present "quantum particle" item we can say unequivocally that it is the disjoint union of elementary and composite particle (Q3366856) without arbitrarily limiting the scale of composite particles to be subatomic. I'm open to ideas: is there another item (or name for this item) that is in fact the disjoint union of the mentioned elementary and composite particles in the broadest quantum-mechanical sense? DavRosen (talk) 00:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]