Talk:Q20530392
Autodescription — 13th Riigikogu (Q20530392)
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- List of organizations which have 13th Riigikogu as parent organization (P749) (query)
- List of organizations of which 13th Riigikogu is a subsidiary (P355) (query)
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- Queries based on member of (P463)
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use P571 rather than P580 for term dates – @Oravrattas: why? This doesn't seem quite right to me. A term after all is first of all a time period, and it's quite straightforward to say it has start/end times. On the other hand it's quite obscure what it has got to do with inception (as associated to creation, formation, establishment, foundation or alike).
Therefore, despite the endless confusion about the P571/P580 difference there is, here it doesn't seem too complicated to me. More generally, the main problem with P571 seems to be that it's very difficult to translate its label properly as languages often don't have equivalent words that apply to same kind of inception events. Things were much simpler if P571 simply didn't exist and P580 was used always. 2001:7D0:81FD:BC80:C480:2A49:DA4B:77DD 08:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that the usage is inconsistent and confusing, but in general, P580/P582 are more for refining a statement to say when it was true. I generally don't care which we use, only that we're consistent, and any discussion I've ever seen has ended up in favour of P571: e.g. Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2018/05#P571_vs_P580 Oravrattas (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)