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Autodescription — Henry David Thoreau (Q131149)
description: American essayist, poet, and philosopher (1817–1862)
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Local fr modification, how to[edit]
Hello, I would like to modify the French-language Infobox because the french page of the Wheeler-Minot Farmhouse birthplace does not exist in French, the page of the city, Concord, Massachusetts, exists. And I want to change the image, too. How to do? Thanks in advance. Thank you for responding on my Wp:fr discussion page. --Abalg (talk) 21:09, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I can only write United States, and not "of America", but there are United States of Mexico too --Abalg (talk) 21:24, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Abalg: you need to ask at French Wikipedia how to use the infobox. Usually the infobox documentation explains how to overwrite Wikidata values with values stored locally. --- Jura 21:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura: I can not change anything, everything is rigid, has no flexibility. I can't adapt any data to my language. The widespread implementation of InfoBox related to Wikidata seems to me a very bad idea, the heart of Wikipedia is its contributors and prevent them from editing articles goes against Wikipedia's principles. Good evening anyway. --Abalg (talk) 22:00, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Abalg: Did you read fr:Modèle:Infobox_Biographie2#Utilisation? You can still use all fields there. --- Jura 09:59, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura: Yes, of course, I can read 1 000 octets to change a little link, but I don't want it. Sincerely, I believe that Wikimedia should change its path, an other way is always possible. Thanks for responding and have a good day. --Abalg (talk) 10:28, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Abalg: You could suggest on the infobox's talk page to build in a function that attempts to find an existing article. Russian Wikipedia already attempts to do that.
I don't really see why Wikidata should replace a precise statement with a more general one only because there no article available in one language. If you have a look at the 10s of sitelinks, it's likely that only United States of America (Q30) has an article in every language. --- Jura 10:37, 20 October 2018 (UTC)- @Jura: But why I must write the exact name of the article? A link is writen in a context and this context change in every articles and languages. Why do you want to globalize data and impose it on local WPs? Wikidata should be content to link languages to each other and allow local contributors to choose what is important to them based on their culture and the state of their knowledge. Implementing rigid InfoBoxes eliminates choice possibilities and destroys the Wikiversity. Regards. --Abalg (talk) 11:02, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Wikidata in general and myself in particular don't impose anything on frwiki. The data is here for frwiki to use (or not). If an infobox at French Wikipedia seems rigid, maybe it just that it hasn't been developed as good as it could. This is something you and other editors at French Wikipedia did or can do. --- Jura 11:07, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura:I never blamed you in particular. In fact, the real question is who are the developpers? I thought it was ones from Wikidata. You mean they own to the French wikipedia? Right? If it's right, could you tell me where I can speak with them (if you know). Thanks in advance. --Abalg (talk) 11:21, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of development, it's just a question of editing the infobox template. --- Jura 11:25, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- And I said you, new infobox is a very bad way to editing an infobox because it's is rigid, has no flexibility and can't adapt to locals languages. So where are we going now? --Abalg (talk) 11:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Why don't you edit it? Wikipedia (and Wikidata) only gets as good as you make it. --- Jura 11:45, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura: Okay, you don't want to understand what I'm saying. Fortunatly, the not-related-wikidata infobox was retablished (not by me). Please, don't put off the related-wikidata infobox a second time. Bye. --Abalg (talk) 13:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Why don't you edit it? Wikipedia (and Wikidata) only gets as good as you make it. --- Jura 11:45, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- And I said you, new infobox is a very bad way to editing an infobox because it's is rigid, has no flexibility and can't adapt to locals languages. So where are we going now? --Abalg (talk) 11:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of development, it's just a question of editing the infobox template. --- Jura 11:25, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura:I never blamed you in particular. In fact, the real question is who are the developpers? I thought it was ones from Wikidata. You mean they own to the French wikipedia? Right? If it's right, could you tell me where I can speak with them (if you know). Thanks in advance. --Abalg (talk) 11:21, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Wikidata in general and myself in particular don't impose anything on frwiki. The data is here for frwiki to use (or not). If an infobox at French Wikipedia seems rigid, maybe it just that it hasn't been developed as good as it could. This is something you and other editors at French Wikipedia did or can do. --- Jura 11:07, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura: But why I must write the exact name of the article? A link is writen in a context and this context change in every articles and languages. Why do you want to globalize data and impose it on local WPs? Wikidata should be content to link languages to each other and allow local contributors to choose what is important to them based on their culture and the state of their knowledge. Implementing rigid InfoBoxes eliminates choice possibilities and destroys the Wikiversity. Regards. --Abalg (talk) 11:02, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Abalg: You could suggest on the infobox's talk page to build in a function that attempts to find an existing article. Russian Wikipedia already attempts to do that.
- @Jura: Yes, of course, I can read 1 000 octets to change a little link, but I don't want it. Sincerely, I believe that Wikimedia should change its path, an other way is always possible. Thanks for responding and have a good day. --Abalg (talk) 10:28, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Abalg: you need to ask at French Wikipedia how to use the infobox. Usually the infobox documentation explains how to overwrite Wikidata values with values stored locally. --- Jura 21:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)