Wikidata talk:Wikidata in Wikimedia projects
- 1 Useful discussions about Wikidata on other Wikimedia projects
- 2 Purpose of this page
- 3 Tracking changes to a Wikidata page from another Wikimedia project
- 4 Link to how-to for Lua and parser funktions
- 5 Collating where Wikidata is used on other Wikimedia projects
- 6 module:Wikidata in different Wikipedias
- 7 English Wikisource
- 8 Resource on Meta
- 9 Wikidata on frwikisource
Useful discussions about Wikidata on other Wikimedia projects
This page was in part created by gpomg through the discussion on other Wikimedia projects realted to Wikidata, here is a non exhaustive list, please have a look through to see if any more questions or concerns can be addressed on this page:
- en:Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikidata Phase 2
- en:Template talk:Infobox book #Wikidata
- en:Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 128 #RfC: Wikidata in infoboxes, opt-in or opt-out?
- en:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 May 11 #Template:Infobox_person/Wikidata
- en:Wikipedia:Wikidata/2017 State of affairs - and its talkpage
Purpose of this page
Thanks for starting this page, but it has turned out to be quite broad in scope. Maybe that is just the way Wikidata is, because it is growing so fast that it's hard to keep up. As someone who took a peek in the very beginning and joined in as early as possible as a non-script writer could, I can say that yes, you touch on a lot of icebergs, which is good, but you haven't scraped the surface of everyone who feels like they are getting freezed out. It's a very good roundup of pages, but I think we also need to create a couple of pages that explain the history of Wikidata in a few quick bug lists or phab tasks. I can think of the discussion about deleting vs redirecting item numbers for example, and the way we set up the various queues for property proposals, and then setting up ways to actually see the properties we created, etc. When it comes to a lay person trying to make a data donation or set up a collaboration dialog, their first question will be "How do I map my database to Wikidata's database?" and of course, in many cases, we will want those people to join the property conversation and not just map away using some default set of properties. So yes, Wikidata can be used on Wikimedia projects, but more Wikimedians can be welcomed to more Wikidata projects, and I think mapping our needs here is something that works best when it is layered over the past challenges and how we worked through them over time. Jane023 (talk) 11:37, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Tracking changes to a Wikidata page from another Wikimedia project
I'll try to explain the current issues that are preventing me from including the Wikidata changes in my watchlist. Basically, if I select Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist then over 90 % of the edits in my watchlist are from Wikidata. Most of them are also irrelevant in fiwiki's context and are known to be acceptable for fiwiki.
I can filter out most of the unnecessary stuff by using "patrolled edits" filter. (doesn't work. It seems that all edits from WD are flagged as patrolled) However patrolled edits are visible by default and I think that most users want to see local patrolled edits in their watchlist. To get this working users should be able to filter patrolled/bot edits from Wikidata and local wiki independently via settings. To get it implemented in a most straightforward way is to get mw:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review team to implement it. Technically it is an easy task to do and most of the needed stuff is made in phab:T159787. (@Trizek_(WMF): (edit: doesn't work. It seems that all edits from WD are flagged as patrolled and this is not trivial to fix)
Secondly, even with patrolled edits filtering there is still a need to filter out even more. For example I don't want to see label/description edits in languages which I can't read OR to filter out edits to properties which aren't used in that page (in that wikimedia project) which are shown in watchlist. Ticket for this is phab:T90436 and some work is done for backend, but it still needs user interface support which has not begun. After that the Lua modules which are in Wikimedia projects and used in for example infoboxes will need to be changed so that they will use the new feature. --Zache (talk) 08:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Link to how-to for Lua and parser funktions
- @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE):, I added a section, it needs expanding but its a start.
Collating where Wikidata is used on other Wikimedia projects
This will be useful
module:Wikidata in different Wikipedias
I checked the linked Guides are available to help set up Wikidata fed infoboxes on Wikipedia pages. Currently you need Lua-modules if you want to do anything more complicated with Wikidata and there is access modules for that. Currently good ones seems to be:
- w:ca:Module:Wikidata - was mentioned in Wikimania slides. Easy to copy to other wikiprojects. Doesn't have infobox integration.
- w:cs:Module:Wikidata - like frwikis, but not so polished and smaller
- w:fr:Module:Wikidata - most advanced. Con: Large and you need to copy lot of modules if you want to use it in other wikiprojects
- w:he:Module:Wikidata - was mentioned in Wikimania slides
- w:ru:Module:Wikidata - different working paradigm than others
In infobox point of view they look like this:
- Cawiki: Article (Douglas Adams) : infobox template
- Cswiki: Article (Half-Life 2) : infobox template : infobox configuration
- Frwiki: Article (Reblochon) : infobox template : infobox configuration
- Hewiki: Article (טיטניק_(סרט,_1997) : infobox template
- Ruwiki: Article (Берлин) : Infobox template
Message originally posted on the project chat by billinghurst, copying here to keep everything in one place:
The English Wikisource is utilising wikidata for populating some of its fields in its author header: image, birth and death data, plus sister interwikis; and the broader authority control templates. Commons is using Wikidata in its Creator: namespace.In general, for people's names, the data is still insufficiently complete, eg. many are wikidata items are missing "family field" and partial "given name" either missing names, or no serial ordinal to order names. The Wikisources seem okay to migrating to data pulls, though need reassurance that the local data is present at WD prior to removing local fields. It is a journey as there are many Wikisource editions that do not have their data even set here at this time, and there is no easy means to push the data from Wikisource to Wikidata, so there we await those tools in development.
Resource on Meta
Hi there. I stumbled upon m:10 reasons why you'll want our new infoboxes too, and I wonder if it could be useful to you. Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Wikidata on frwikisource
on Wikisource (fr), we already transfered all our Authors to wikidata, more than a year ago, and our current template on more than 8700 authors is generally just importing data from wikidata, with some maintaining, of course :)
We are now on our way to transfer metadata for our texts to wikidata, with the new project.