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Useful discussions about Wikidata on other Wikimedia projects[edit]

This page was in part created by gpomg through the discussion on other Wikimedia projects realted to Wikidata, here is a non exhaustive list, please have a look through to see if any more questions or concerns can be addressed on this page:


--John Cummings (talk) 11:04, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Purpose of this page[edit]

Thanks for starting this page, but it has turned out to be quite broad in scope. Maybe that is just the way Wikidata is, because it is growing so fast that it's hard to keep up. As someone who took a peek in the very beginning and joined in as early as possible as a non-script writer could, I can say that yes, you touch on a lot of icebergs, which is good, but you haven't scraped the surface of everyone who feels like they are getting freezed out. It's a very good roundup of pages, but I think we also need to create a couple of pages that explain the history of Wikidata in a few quick bug lists or phab tasks. I can think of the discussion about deleting vs redirecting item numbers for example, and the way we set up the various queues for property proposals, and then setting up ways to actually see the properties we created, etc. When it comes to a lay person trying to make a data donation or set up a collaboration dialog, their first question will be "How do I map my database to Wikidata's database?" and of course, in many cases, we will want those people to join the property conversation and not just map away using some default set of properties. So yes, Wikidata can be used on Wikimedia projects, but more Wikimedians can be welcomed to more Wikidata projects, and I think mapping our needs here is something that works best when it is layered over the past challenges and how we worked through them over time. Jane023 (talk) 11:37, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Tracking changes to a Wikidata page from another Wikimedia project[edit]

I'll try to explain the current issues that are preventing me from including the Wikidata changes in my watchlist. Basically, if I select Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist then over 90 % of the edits in my watchlist are from Wikidata. Most of them are also irrelevant in fiwiki's context and are known to be acceptable for fiwiki. I can filter out most of the unnecessary stuff by using "patrolled edits" filter. (doesn't work. It seems that all edits from WD are flagged as patrolled) However patrolled edits are visible by default and I think that most users want to see local patrolled edits in their watchlist.

To get this working users should be able to filter patrolled/bot edits from Wikidata and local wiki independently via settings. To get it implemented in a most straightforward way is to get mw:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review team to implement it. Technically it is an easy task to do and most of the needed stuff is made in phab:T159787. (@Trizek_(WMF): (edit: doesn't work. It seems that all edits from WD are flagged as patrolled and this is not trivial to fix)

Secondly, even with patrolled edits filtering there is still a need to filter out even more. For example I don't want to see label/description edits in languages which I can't read OR to filter out edits to properties which aren't used in that page (in that wikimedia project) which are shown in watchlist. Ticket for this is phab:T90436 and some work is done for backend, but it still needs user interface support which has not begun. After that the Lua modules which are in Wikimedia projects and used in for example infoboxes will need to be changed so that they will use the new feature. --Zache (talk) 08:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

@Zache:, thanks very much for this explanation. --John Cummings (talk) 20:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Link to how-to for Lua and parser funktions[edit]

This page should probably link to Wikidata:How to use data on Wikimedia projects but I'm not sure where. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk)

@Lydia Pintscher (WMDE):, I added a section, it needs expanding but its a start.

Collating where Wikidata is used on other Wikimedia projects[edit]

This will be useful

--John Cummings (talk) 19:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

module:Wikidata in different Wikipedias[edit]

I checked the linked Guides are available to help set up Wikidata fed infoboxes on Wikipedia pages. Currently you need Lua-modules if you want to do anything more complicated with Wikidata and there is access modules for that. Currently good ones seems to be:

In infobox point of view they look like this:

If i missed something, then please link :). --Zache (talk) 04:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

English Wikisource[edit]

Message originally posted on the project chat by billinghurst, copying here to keep everything in one place:

The English Wikisource is utilising wikidata for populating some of its fields in its author header: image, birth and death data, plus sister interwikis; and the broader authority control templates. Commons is using Wikidata in its Creator: namespace.In general, for people's names, the data is still insufficiently complete, eg. many are wikidata items are missing "family field" and partial "given name" either missing names, or no serial ordinal to order names. The Wikisources seem okay to migrating to data pulls, though need reassurance that the local data is present at WD prior to removing local fields. It is a journey as there are many Wikisource editions that do not have their data even set here at this time, and there is no easy means to push the data from Wikisource to Wikidata, so there we await those tools in development.

--John Cummings (talk) 08:36, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Resource on Meta[edit]

Hi there. I stumbled upon m:10 reasons why you'll want our new infoboxes too, and I wonder if it could be useful to you. Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata on frwikisource[edit]

Hi, Aubrey
Viswaprabha (talk)
Maximilianklein (talk)
Jane023 (talk) 08:21, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Alexander Doria (talk)
Ruud 23:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Jayanta Nath
Yann (talk)
John Vandenberg (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Danmichaelo (talk) 19:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Ravi (talk)
Mvolz (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Hsarrazin (talk) 07:56, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 19:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Revi 16:54, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Almondega (talk) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Jura to help sort out issues with other projects
Skim (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Marchitelli (talk) 12:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
BrillLyle (talk) 15:33, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Alexmar983 (talk) 23:53, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Chiara (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Thibaut120094 (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Ivanhercaz | Discusión Plume pen w.png 15:30, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 17:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
PatHadley (talk) 21:51, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Erica (ohmyerica) (talk) 19:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 05:38, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Sam Wilson 09:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
MartinPoulter (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
ThelmadatterThelmadatter (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Zeroth (talk) 15:01, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Beat Estermann (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Shilonite - specialize in cataloging Jewish & Hebrew books
Elena moz
Oa01 (talk) 10:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Maria zaos (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Wikidelo (talk) 13:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Mfchris84 (talk) 10:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Mlemusrojas (talk) 3:36, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
salgo60 Salgo60 (talk) 12:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Dick Bos (talk) 14:35, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Marco Chemello (BEIC) (talk) 07:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Books

on Wikisource (fr), we already transfered all our Authors to wikidata, more than a year ago, and our current template on more than 8700 authors is generally just importing data from wikidata, with some maintaining, of course :)

We are now on our way to transfer metadata for our texts to wikidata, with the new project.

The reflections about how to transfer data should, I think, be shared with most wikisources, as our goals are the same. So, here I post this... --Hsarrazin (talk) 08:45, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikitable from Wikidata?[edit]

Is there a way to conveniently populate a Wikitable from Wikidata -- or to produce something that looks like that?

I'm currently working to replace the list of states in the Repeal section of the Wikipedia article on "w:Net neutrality in the United States" with a Wikitable showing the dates that (a) governors promulgated relevant executive orders, (b) attorneys general joined the net neutrality lawsuit against the FCC, and (c) a net neutrality bill was introduced into the state legislature.

If there were a way to do this, I might try to enter the data I'm compiling into Wikidata. I probably will NOT do this for this current task. However, if I knew that there was a way -- AND it was not a lot more work than what I'm doing -- I might enter the data into Wikidata. For sure, it would be nice to be able to extract such a table from Wikidata and have all uses automatically updated each time, e.g., another relevant bill is introduced in some US state. DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:36, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: Have you seen listeria? Give it a Wikidata query, and it can generate tables of the results, e.g. see en:User:Mike Peel/Telescopes by country. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: Thanks very much. That's a start, but it's still a hill too high for this infant to climb. Questions:
  1. What must be done to put citations into Wikidata? I've been using w:, because I can use this same template on en.wikipedia, en.wikiversity, etc. However, it will not work for non-English languages. I heard at Wikimania 2017 in Montreal that citations could be entered into Wikidata, but I have so far not seen adequate documentation on how to do enter and use such info.
  2. Can listeria be used to produce a table with collapsed cells, like in w:User:DavidMCEddy/sandbox on 2018-02-14? This is my current project and may not stay in my sandbox after I complete it. It uses, "rowspan=" to collapse cells vertically.
  3. How can one collapse cells in the header of a table? My example currently in w:User:DavidMCEddy/sandbox includes columns designated by "!legislation-filed !!legislation-number !!legislation-title/description". I tried using "!rowspan="2"!entity" and "!rowspan="2"!entity", etc., with "!colspan="2"!legislation", etc. without success.
  4. I have not seen an email from your {{ping|DavidMCEddy}}. I've received emails from Wikimania Program, Wikimedia Commons, Wikinews, Wikipedia, Wikiversity, and other entities in searching my email files for “from” something containing “wiki”. (I didn't find anything in my spam folders.) Might you have any suggestions about the cause of this problem and what might be done to fix it? You responded to my question two hours after I answered. I looked for answers there for 1:59 (h:mm) or so after I posted it, then failed to look again until just a few minutes ago. As a result I was deprived of your supportive reply until I on a whim looked at this one more time a few moments ago. DavidMCEddy (talk) 08:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@DavidMCEddy: For another example, you can also see the results of ice skating competition at the Olympic Games, on French Wikinews, directly displayed from Wikidata. Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 08:49, 15 February 2018 (UTC)