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Property proposal[edit]

So I saw this and was inspired to propose: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Unsorted#Pokedex_Number. Legoktm (talk) 13:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

The property has been created: Pokédex number (P1112). Related discussion: Property talk:P1112. --Yair rand (talk) 13:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Database[edit]

I did a bit of Google'ing and found this, which seems to be a very comprehensive database of Pokémon, that would be pretty useful. Importing the entire thing would definitely be overkill though. :P Legoktm (talk) 16:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Unknown subject[edit]

Can anyone tell me what those entries are about ? Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 06:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

  • Q6019082 - Legendary Pokémon
  • Q9958749 - "Pokémon creatures". The subcategories are all [Fire|Water|Grass] Pokémon
  • Q10049124 - "Pokémon articles under-construction"
  • Q10003441 - Category of "Pokémon bugs"
Via Google Translate. Legoktm (talk) 09:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that there should be evolutions for legendary pokemon to you know then there would be lots of even cooler pokemon to breed and train.

Raichu[edit]

Raichu is in double : Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts#Q1971543/Q1647331. Wait. TiboF® 10:15, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 10:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

First generation[edit]

Every Pokémon or line of evolution introduce by the first generation had been find (and completed in French).

I invite everyone to complete labels and descriptions in there language. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 07:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Oddish, Gloom, and Vileplume (and Bellossom)[edit]

English is alone in this entry when it was originally that entry. Do you think Yair rand modification is relevant ? Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 07:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

No, it is no relevant. This is the same Pokémon. Consolidation. (I'm French) TiboF® 13:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Maybe soon the separation between "Slowpoke, Slowbro and Slowking" and "Slowpoke and Slowbro". Talk with her. (I'm French) TiboF® 13:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
That would be "him" not "her". --Yair rand (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, it can be envisaged because WPen has "Slowpoke and Slowbro" and not "Slowpoke, Slowbro and Slowking" ; and WPen has "Oddish, Gloom, and Vileplume" and not "Oddish, Gloom, Vileplume, and Bellossom". Presently, "Slowking" and "Bellossom" are redirections to the lists.
What I ask is not if WPen should add Slowking to "Slowpoke and Slowbro" and Bellossom to "Oddish, Gloom, and Vileplume", this is their issue not ours. But if they conclude that those two Pokémon (and many others) should have a separate article, and because "Oddish, Gloom, and Vileplume" and "Oddish, Gloom, Vileplume, and Bellossom" are not exactly the same thing : is it relevant to considerate them has two similars entries Q12175319 and Q3331733 with some differences as there is many in fictitious subjects on WP ? Or did we see them as the same (but with some part on a "detailed article") ? Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 14:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
If the English like to be alone, that is their concern. But no Wikipedia will do a page on Oddish and company without and with Bellossom. This separation is really stupid. (I'm French) TiboF® 17:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
While it might not be very useful from an interwiki standpoint, the split is still necessary in order for the statements to be correct. Even if those Wikipedias with articles on "Oddish, Gloom, and Vileplume" won't also have an article on "Oddish, Gloom, Vileplume, and Bellossom" (and vice versa), it's still true that Bellossom (Q2706532) is part of (P361) evolutionary line of Oddish (Q3331733) but not part of (P361) no label (Q12175319). --Yair rand (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Bahasa Melayu[edit]

Lately (may 4th), entries for Pokémon articles on Wikipedia in bahasa melayu language (code ms) had been created. I start to merged them with already existent entries, but you are welcomed to help. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 08:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm checking them from the ms.wiki category, one by one backwards from the last one, Zubat (as I'm writing I've reached Swellow, but I'm going on). --Syrio posso aiutare? 19:45, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Bahasa Melayu entries from Octillery to Zubat have been checked. --Syrio posso aiutare? 22:49, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
I, J, K, L, M and N checked too. --Syrio posso aiutare? 16:10, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
D, E, F, G and H checked too. --Syrio posso aiutare? 19:01, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your hard work. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
A, B and C checked too: finished. Glad to have been of help :) --Syrio posso aiutare? 12:00, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Descriptions for Pokémon species[edit]

Hi guys. First of all, you're awesome, it was great to find a task force like this. I'll definitely be supporting this. Now, I don't know how far you have come in terms of adding descriptions for the different species of Pokémon. I see you've been using just "species of Pokémon" for descriptions, and I thought that maybe that's not enough of a description to get everyone to grasp what an item is about. I think something like "fictional species of Pokémon creatures in the Pokémon franchise" (or "eponymous franchise") would be more clear and fit within the recommendation of 2–12 words. I wouldn't want to disrupt the current project, I'm just suggesting improvement in good faith (as this is a wiki). Of course, descriptions need not necessarily be standardized, but were we to have a semi-standard one, adding it everywhere would be really easy. We could probably get a bot to do the heavy lifting for us if we were to add or change lots of descriptions. (Of course, some languages have no descriptions as of now, and they should definitely be interested in a standard description to be easily added everywhere. For Finnish, the one I proposed would translate as "fiktiivinen Pokémon-olentojen laji Pokémon-sarjassa".) Enoirditalk 10:10, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll add that we probably shouldn't even bother with manually adding descriptions when going through the Pokémon items. Once we're done adding at least English labels to all Pokémon, we can request mass adding descriptions at Wikidata:Bot requests. For that, however, we need to know what those descriptions would be, even if they would be end up the ones that are currently most common. (By the way, my description suggestion could be shortened to "species of fictional Pokémon creatures", which is pretty clear and makes note of fictivity.) Enoirditalk 10:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Descriptions are useful to make distinction between entries with the same label and as simpler is better, we don't need to be exhaustive. Because there is no real Pokémon species but only fictional ones, we don't need to make distinction between "species of Pokémon creatures" and "species of fictional Pokémon creatures" as we can do between "species of dogs" and "fictional species of dogs" ; IMO, making notes of fictitiousness of the entries' subjects is not a necessity, "Pokémon species" or "species of Pokémon creatures" is clearly enough.
For French language, we have a consensus for "espèce de Pokémon" (singular, "Pokémon species") for individuals and "espèces de Pokémon" (plural, "Pokémon species") for groups. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 12:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I understand that. What I meant was that saying "Pokémon species" doesn't make it clear what the entries are actually about if one doesn't know what a Pokémon is. On exhaustiveness, it's of course not nice. Personally, I wouldn't look at my original description idea anymore for this reason, the shorter one ("species of fictional Pokémon creatures") has grown on me way better and that's the one I'd support. But, ultimately, consensus wins and I won't be having any silly one-man army rebellions (hah) if it will be just "Pokémon species" we're going with. I'd expected a few more replies so a proper consensus could be shaped or cemented, though. Enoirditalk 11:32, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon properties[edit]

Hello there !

I make propositions to add a new properties for Pokémon.

GO SUPPORT IT. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Datatype of Pokédex number (P1112)[edit]

Hi! I was adding Pokédex numbers to Pokémon data items when I realized that Pokédex number (P1112) is a Quantity type (I saw a ±1), and not a String, as it should be. A discussion is at Wikidata:Properties for deletion#Pokédex number (P1112). Thanks, Ebe123 (talk | contributions) 05:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Cities and places[edit]

So, it looks like the Italian Wikipedia has articles on pretty much every single location in any of the games: it:Categoria:Luoghi dei Pokémon. As well as every single gym leader: it:Categoria:Personaggi dei Pokémon. As a result, there are items for all of these. Just pointing this out in case anyone wants a giant pile of unfilled items to work on. --Yair rand (talk) 05:50, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit]

Instead of using follows (P155) and followed by (P156) as properties of the Pokémon it would be more clear to add that information as a qualifier of Pokédex number (P1112) and Pokémon browser number (P1685) because in that way we can see easily which number it is and which ones are the previous and the following ones. It would also make getting the data externally easier, because that way we don't have to match the of (P642) from the qualifiers of the three properties. What do you think? Because I'm not going to start making the changes without consensus here.... -- Agabi10 (talk) 02:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

OK, as no one opposed to the change in about three weeks and there seams to be some kind of consensus in the village pump on applying the follows (P155) and followed by (P156) as qualifiers instead of properties I think that I'll start updating the way we arrange the data for these properties. -- Agabi10 (talk) 00:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

TODO[edit]

Hi you all, I just created the page Wikidata:WikiProject Pokémon/TODO in order to know what is useful to be done. It is not a discussion page but just a list of things to be done to the Pokémon-related items. Take a look and edit the page in case of missing works ;) --★ → Airon 90 10:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Property proposal: Pokémon type[edit]

Please contribute to my proposal about a new property to define Pokémon type here. --★ → Airon 90 14:25, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Routes and places[edit]

Hi, How could I add information about routes and places in Pokémon games correctly? I started yesterday in adding some information to Pallet Town (Q2255680), Viridian City (Q1080865) and Pewter City (Q15133099), which are separated respectively only by Route 1 (Q25991635) and Route 2 (Q25991682), so e.g. in Viridian City (Q1080865) I added shares border with (P47) with the item of the two cities and subject of the statement (P805) and direction (P560) as qualifiers. In routes I added location (P276) with the two cities and direction (P560) as qualifier. I have a problem with routes 3 and 4 as both are separating Pewter City (Q15133099) from Cerulean City (Q15090670). Then, I think that I'm missing something because between route 3 and 4 there is Mt. Moon (Q3861703).

My question is: how to map items correctly? --★ → Airon 90 09:00, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it's correct to say that Pallet Town (Q2255680) and Viridian City (Q1080865) border one another. Instead, I would say that both border Route 1 (Q25991635). --Yair rand (talk) 01:14, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I tought that too but I fear that it would be an equal level violation, as subject (Pallet Town (Q2255680)) is a city and object of shares border with (P47) (Route 1 (Q25991635)) is a route. --★ → Airon 90 07:40, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

RfD for moves of seventh generation of Pokémon (Q26945333)[edit]

Participate to the discussion! --★ → Airon 90 06:31, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Recent changes feed[edit]

Here's a potentially useful recent changes feed of changes to items related to Pokemon. (Should be fairly comprehensive, but there are probably a few things left out.) --Yair rand (talk) 07:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)