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Artwork idea[edit]

It could be nice to have an image to represent the LGBT task force. Perhaps the Wikidata logo, but multi-colored like the rainbow? --Another Believer (talk) 14:59, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

File:Wikidata-logo-LGBT.png Done :) Amir (talk) 20:37, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
This looks great! --Another Believer (talk) 21:59, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sex and gender discussion[edit]

-Another Believer (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Play Wikidata games[edit]

Wikidata's usefulness can be difficult to understand. For those who want to see how Wikidata categorizes entries on other projects, consider playing a Wikidata game.

One of the games, the "Gender" game, asks readers to put gender labels on articles for biographies. I know this is problematic in some cases due to being biased to a binary system, but this is actually an attempt to be more gender inclusive. You might remember that Wikipedians who wanted to promote women's issues recently tried to make it possible to find biographies of successful women in particular fields. I am a believer that people need access to role models, and I like the idea of making it possible for people to find members of groups that interest them. When Wikipedians did this, it was seen as an act of hate and discrimination in external media, which was not the intent of giving access to this information. The gender game begins to address this problem by putting categorization on Wikidata rather than Wikipedia where labels are more arbitrary and open to misinterpretation.

I would like to see this group guide the way that LGBT interests are labeled. I know that labels are always problematic, but as scientists like Jack Andraka have said, "Where are the gays?’ I couldn’t see any role models." When labels are applied, I want to be there to give input on how this happens. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

My role model is Alan Turing (Q7251) and sexual orientation of great scientists is under debate (specially Newton). about the game @Magnus Manske: Can you add something for sexual orientation? Amir (talk) 15:09, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
The "Gender game" works because that information is easy to extract from skimming the article text. Sexual orientation is much more complicated to determine; see the dire warnings on sexual orientation (P91). By the same strictness, it will apply to only a small number of items. For those reasons, I think a game would not be a suitable way to do this. --Magnus Manske (talk) 14:00, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Fall 2014 Art+Feminism IEG & PEG Grants Notification[edit]

Hello All, the Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon organizers have prepared an IEG grant, and a PEG grant this week for the fall Wikimedia Foundation grant scholarships. These grants will fund several NYC training sessions, another major international Edit-a-thon, and the creation of infrastructure to support this year, and years going forward. The project is seeking community comment / discussion and endorsement signatures (section at the bottom of the page) to help complete the grant process. We encourage you to take a look at these grants, and offer your feedback and/or your endorsement signature if you feel the project worthy. On behalf of the other organizers. --Theredproject (talk) 01:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

RFC: 2015 Art+Feminism Grant[edit]

Art+Feminism has prepared a combined renewal of our IEG grant and PEG grant. If awarded, these grants will fund: childcare and refreshments for the 2016 international Art+Feminism Edit-a-thons; in-person training sessions for New York-city based volunteers and online training sessions national and international node organizers; the expansion of our outreach to post-secondary institutions and international Wikimedia chapters; building sustainable infrastructure for node organizers; and making our materials more intersectional. We seek community comment to help complete the grant process: here -- Theredproject (talk) 00:04, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016[edit]

Only this week left for comments: Wikidata:Wikimania 2016 (Thank you for translating this message). --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:49, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Question about LGBT Pride organizer[edit]

Hi, I created these three elements about LGBT Pride in Milan:

However, I think that I added an incorrect data in the first one: I set instance of (P31) as pride parade (Q51404) but the element is neither pride parade (Q51404) (as I created the other 2 (by now) elements) nor organizer (Q2029941). Could someone help me in finding the correct element to set instance of (P31)? Thank you very much! --★ → Airon 90 15:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)



J'aime ta proposition.

Ce qui donne (avec des erreurs à corriger et ajout à faire) Query

Silanoc (talk) 21:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

English-only please. --★ → Airon 90 07:56, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, i read english but don't writte. With google-translate
I like your proposal.
What gives (with errors to fix and add to do) Query
or Query

What values should we use for sexual orientation (P91)?[edit]

So I've been expanding the Wikidata records for the out athletes at 2018 Winter Olympics (Q9680) and I've seen a lack of standardisation for some pre-existing sexual orientation (P91) statements — particularly seeing both gay (Q592) and homosexuality (Q6636) for male athletes.

While there are several labels that these individuals might choose to describe themselves, we should presumably agree on a standard way of mapping those labels to values.

I'd like to propose the following:

Gender* Orientation* Proposed value for
sexual orientation (P91)
male homosexual gay (Q592)
female lesbian or homosexual lesbian (Q6649)
any gay gay (Q592)
any bisexual bisexuality (Q43200)
any pansexual or omnisexual pansexuality (Q271534)
any queer queer (Q51415)
any straight or heterosexual heterosexuality (Q1035954)
any (any other description) LGBT (Q17884)
non-heterosexuality (Q339014)
* Current, self-described

Opinions would be gratefully received. — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 14:53, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@OwenBlacker: All of these work.
There are not widespread uses in place for these terms in the way that would be useful on Wikidata. The scheme you are proposing could establish a standard.
A style of usage that I like is to distinguish culture from behavior. If someone adopts the culture, identity, and outward presentation of their sexual orientation, then mark them as gay or straight or whatever. In the less common cases where someone's sexual orientation is not obvious but somehow there is media coverage about their sexual behavior, then we put "hetero" or "homo" tags on a person as appropriate.
Probably the most common non-hetero sexual orientation is straight homosexual, where "straight" refers to culture or how a person presents themselves and "homosexual" refers to their sexual practices. For the 2018 Olympics probably if there is public information at all then it would be as you described it. For historical figures known to have same-sex sex there was no published concept of gay or straight so "homosexuality" for an orientation can work. Blue Rasberry (talk) 02:17, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

There's a conversation at Talk:Q51415 about whether queer (Q51415) should be a permitted value for sex or gender (P21) and sexual orientation (P91) and how best to handle that while still enforcing data-integrity constraints — queer (Q51415) isn't really an instance of (P31) of sexual orientation (Q17888) or of gender identity (Q48264), so Máté suggested union of (P2737) might need to be involved somehow... Opinions here or there might be useful. — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:18, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Question around this. Is it standard practice to add one or more labels? For homosexual women, I have sometimes seen lesbian and homosexuality added as labels. Is it best to do both or has there been a more standardized practice that has developed around this? --LauraHale (talk) 11:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft proposal on living person data[edit]

I just saw that a user drafted this.

I am not sure what other policies exist or where or how LGBT+ interests have been a part of any of them. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

What are the best modelled items for your areas of interest?[edit]

Hi all

Over the past few months myself and others have been thinking about the best way to help people model subjects consistently on Wikidata and provide new contributors with a simple way to understand how to model content on different subjects. Our first solution is to provide some best practice examples of items for different subjects which we are calling Model items. E.g the item for William Shakespeare (Q692) is a good example to follow for creating items about playwright (Q214917). These model items are linked to from the item for the subject to make them easier to find and we have tried to make simple to understand instructions.

We would like subject matter experts to contribute their best examples of well modelled items. We are asking all the Wikiprojects to share with us the kinds of subjects you most commonly add information about and the best examples you have of this kind of item. We would like to have at least 5 model items for each subject to show the diversity of the subject e.g just having William Shakespeare (Q692) as a model item for playwright (Q214917), while helpful may not provide a good example for people trying to model modern poets from Asia.

You can add model items yourself by using the instructions at Wikidata:Model items. It may be helpful to have a discussion here to collate information first.


John Cummings (talk) 15:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Seeking comment on WMF funding request for LGBT+ Wikidata project[edit]

See meta:Grants:Project/ContentMine/Diversitech

ContentMine is a nonprofit organization which does text mining to extract facts. They have a general system for this, and they are proposing to apply it to LGBT+ biographies and other texts. This organization is currently engaged in a similar Wikimedia-funded project, and this LGBT+ project would start around summer 2019. Right now it is seeking comment for funding, including endorsements from anyone who wants to see this happen.

I would not touch any part of the funding of this, but I have volunteered as an adviser to the project. As this is Wikidata and LGBT+ related I am seeking comment from participants in this WikiProject. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

No notification of the project ?[edit]

Hi, so I just proposed Wikidata:Property_proposal/Queerly_Represent_Me_identifier and tried to notify this project, but while I used the same exact syntax as the ping for the video game project, it did show me a error message (something about "this project cannot be notified"). Is it expected, or should I just blame my sleepless night ? --Misc (talk) 15:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done --★ → Airon 90 16:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Notice: Gender discussion[edit]

Project members are invited to contribute to Wikidata:Project_chat#Let's_talk_about_gender, which was brought here after this discussion at WikiProject LGBT studies (English Wikipedia). Thank you! -Another Believer (talk) 03:27, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

site personnel / personnal site web[edit]

bonjour / hello

J'écris mal l'anglais / I writting bad english.

Afin de valoriser wikidata, son contenu et les thèmatique LGBTQI+ j'ai créé un site internet personnel / for valorise wikidata and LGBTQI+valors, i create a personnal site-web

Afin de rendre lisible, j'utilise reasonator, vous pouvez donc lire plein de chose dessus dans votre langue / I use reasonator, you can read most item in your language.

adresse :

Classification of web comics[edit]


while crawling french wikipedia, I stumbled on Q3555664, and I am not sure exactly of the property I could add to express the fact that's about transidentity. I have seen there is LGBT comic (Q61745175), but that seems to be for paper comics, not online ones and a bit too generic (I am not sure we should use subclass of (P279) for that kind of classification). I also tried to see if there is a project dealing with web comics, but the closest I found is Wikidata:WikiProject_Anime_and_Manga, not exactly the right place. Has anyone some ideas or opinions on that ? --Misc (talk) 10:21, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that using subclass of (P279) do not scale well. For example, if I want to express that Q3555664 is about transidentity, I would have to make a specific category for that, and if there another one about lesbianism, then again. Then if that's both, this start to be complicated. --Misc (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
So, looking on Wikidata:WikiProject_Books, I am leaning on using main subject (P921) --Misc (talk) 14:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant, if you wish, you can create a new item 'LGBT online comic' as a subclass of (P279) of LGBT comic (Q61745175). I agree with your use of main subject (P921) to express the subject. John Samuel (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Projet:Ecrire pour les droits/Marseille/bienvenue[edit]

Bonjour, nous proposons un projet Ecrire pour les droits Amir (talk) 09:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC) ★ → Airon 90 10:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC) --Another Believer (talk) 15:00, 17 June 2014 (UTC) I am not terribly familiar with Wikidata, but offering my support! Thepwnco (talk) 16:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC) Zellfaze (talk) 16:11, 17 June 2014 (UTC) anjali (talk) 17:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC) Gobōnobō + c 00:25, 18 June 2014 (UTC) OR drohowa (talk) 15:37, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC) SarahStierch (talk) 16:47, 30 June 2014 (UTC) (Been adding LGBT stuff on Wikidata for months, had no clue this existed!) MRG90 (talk) 10:15, 19 August 2014 (UTC) Ecritures (talk) 16:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC) Erica (ohmyerica) (talk) 19:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC) Shikeishu (talk) 22:28, 17 September 2016 (UTC) OwenBlacker (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2017 (UTC) Ash Crow (talk) John Samuel 17:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC) SilanocSilanoc (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:45, 2 February 2019 (UTC) ...

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject LGBT nous traitons des droits des réfugiés, demandeurs d'asile avec une attention particulière pour les personnes qui ont fuit leur pays pour des raisons d'orientation sexuelle, voici le lien vers le projet | Ecrire pour les droits et sommes demandeurs d'une liste de travail en lien avec les droits. page méta Je ne suis pas encore très au point sur les recherches sur Query Service.Face-smile.svg--Sophiedidacressources (talk) 07:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Translating in english, for the non french speakers. "Hello, we are proposing a projet "Write for the LGBT person rights", we are looking at the rights of refugees, asylium seekers, with a focus on people who flee their country for sexual orientation related reasons. here is the link to the project Ecrire pour les droits and we are looking for a working list related to those rights. meta page. I am not yet familiar enough with research on the Query Services. Face-smile.svg". --Misc (talk) 08:04, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Also, I am going to directly answer in french on Sophiedidacressources (talkcontribslogs) ressource discussion page in french --Misc (talk) 08:05, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Merci Misc, pardonne moi, je ne comprends pas l'anglais, désolée--Sophiedidacressources (talk) 09:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
J'ai juste dit que j'ai répondu sur la page de discussion en francais, pas de souci pour l'anglais Misc (talk) 09:14, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't speak French. [This is a simple query, which maybe could be improved
SELECT ?right ?rightLabel WHERE {
  wd:Q17625913 wdt:P527 ?right.
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }

Try it!

--★ → Airon 90 09:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Je suis un contributeur sur Wikidata et un utilisateur de Query Service. Est-ce-vous cherchez les contributeurs Wikidata pour ce projet? Voici mes contributions pendant LGBT History Month. John Samuel (talk) 11:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC)