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Under discussion

Description	works that this trailer video represents
Represents	trailer (Q111903295)
Data type	Item
Domain	Commons media files
Example 1	File:0 A D Alpha 17 Trailer - YouTube.webm → 0 A.D. (Q161234)
Example 2	File:Steam Announcement Trailer - Detroit Become Human, Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain - Quantic Dream.webm → Detroit: Become Human (Q21246348), Beyond: Two Souls (Q166226) and Heavy Rain (Q647855)
Example 3	File:Dustborn (by Red Thread Games) – Teaser Trailer.webm → Dustborn (Q122962928)
Example 4	File:【本予告】劇場版アニメ「i☆Ris the Movie - Full Energy!! -」5月17日(金) 全国劇場公開.webm →Iris the Movie: Full Energy!! (Q125955160)
Example 5	File:2023.11.23 RELEASE NEW ALBUM「NEW ERA -the beginning-」Trailer.webm → NEW ERA -the beginning- (Q134942541)

Motivation

Could not find any existing properties that fitted

@Wd-Ryan:--Trade (talk) 21:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I'm not that familiar with Commons structured data - would something like this work? File:0_A_D_Alpha_17_Trailer_-_YouTube.webmdepicts (P180)0 A.D. (Q161234)subject has role (P2868)video game trailer (Q65972034) -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 23:10, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I dont even know if P2868 is allowed to be used on Commons structured data Trade (talk) 00:35, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
According to the property constraints, it is allowed on the Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033) datatype. But I'd rather wait for someone with Commons experience before making a decisive vote. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 14:34, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming that is technically possible, I think it would work (though I can't say it's a pinnacle of clarity). @Trade: do you want to try that out on one of your examples and see if there is any technical difficulty in using it? - Jmabel (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It technically works but it doesnt feel right. I think depicts should be limited to where a work is being depicted (an photo of someone playing an video game, etc), not when the work itself is the whole file (the trailer) Trade (talk) 19:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PMG @Sannita maybe you have something to say, about structured data on commons. (IMHO a new property can be avoided if the P180 is enough) GiovanniPen (talk) 08:08, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Trade: I'm totally confused how cosplay (Q142554) fits into this. (Please ping if replying.) - Jmabel (talk) 03:57, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel:--Trade (talk) 17:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- So it was just a typo? - Jmabel (talk) 18:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  yeah Trade (talk) 18:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are we even supposed to use audiovisual works as an value for depicts (P180)? It is not exactly clear when this would and would not apply @Jmabel:--Trade (talk) 12:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Trade: Seems to me like it at least sometimes works. Certainly
  ⟨ Empire (Q177519)    ⟩ depicts (P180) ⟨ Empire State Building (Q9188)    ⟩
  is correct. The question would be how broadly it would apply, not whether it would apply. - Jmabel (talk) 17:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Your example is using an building as an value, not an audiovisual work.. You are also using the property on a item, not a media file. Trade (talk) 22:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 00:02, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question Do we have more than 100 trailers that would justify a new property? Is depicts (P180) enough? Midleading (talk) 15:07, 2 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There are hundreds of videos in Category:Video game trailers

As for your second question, P180 is for entities that are visually depicted in an file. A trailer is by definition never just merely a "visual depiction" of a trailer, it's a faithful digitized representation of the indicated trailer for the work in question Trade (talk) 02:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Tinker Bell:--Trade (talk) 02:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Midleading: As Trade said too, I think P180 links a visual work with entities of the universe it represents, that universe can be our real world or a fictional one. For example, a trailer of the movie Cars (Q182153) could represent, among other entities in the universe Cars (Q5046850), Lightning McQueen (Q864418), Sally Carrera (Q7405109), and Radiator Springs (Q9192103), but that trailer does not represent Cars (Q182153). I could say a trailer is a type of derivative work made for commercial purposes. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 15:29, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Wikimedia Commons best practice is to add the same depicts (P180) statement as digital representation of (P6243) whenever there is a digital representation of (P6243) statement enforced by a bot. Arguably here it looks like either P6243 or P180. Midleading (talk) 14:20, 22 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@GiovanniPen, Jmabel, Midleading, PMG, Sannita: Would you like to give your final opinion based on the response? -- Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 05:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
- I lean toward creating a distinct property; I guess that amounts to weak support. - Jmabel (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  Same as Jmabel. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 10:08, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@GiovanniPen, Midleading, PMG: Would you like to give your opinion? -- Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 08:21, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I support creating new property. PMG (talk) 14:04, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I’m Neutral. It seems this is a subproperty of P180 and P6243 with so few property usages to encourage its adoption. Mostly likely, it will have the same fate as P6243 (<1M usages), where a bot copies its value to P180 (28M usages) in order to be reusable by most tools. Midleading (talk) 04:18, 29 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]