Wikidata:Property proposal/statement is regarded as spoiler for

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statement is regarded as spoiler for[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Descriptionexposing this information might ruin the experience of receiving this work
Representsspoiler (Q77852)
Data typeItem
Domainworks
Allowed valuesworks
Example 1Planet of the apes (Q59534)narrative location (P840)New York City (Q60) → [is a spoiler for] → Planet of the apes (Q59534)
Example 2Luke Skywalker (Q51746)father (P22)Darth Vader (Q12206942) → [is a spoiler for] → The Empire Strikes Back (Q181795)
Example 3Odo (Q2195486)home world (P1165)Founder Homeworld (Q72617873) → [is a spoiler for] → The Search: Part 2 (Q48975552)
Example 4Eloi (Q2496297)subclass of (P279)fictional livestock (Q47516659) → [is a spoiler for] → The Time Machine (Q627333)
Example 5The Two Towers (Q332388)characters (P674)Gandalf (Q177499) → [is a spoiler for] → The Two Towers (Q332388)
Example 6Scooby-Doo (Q936302)characters (P674)Scrappy-Doo (Q1083020) → [is a spoiler for] → Scooby-Doo (Q936302)
Example 7Nicky (Q50527567)mother (P25)Holly the Angel (Q50808521) → [is a spoiler for] → Little Nicky (Q267866)
Planned usequalifier for all sorts of statements
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)

Motivation[edit]


Valentina.Anitnelav Thierry Caro Shisma (talk) Arlo Barnes (talk) Tsaorin (talk) 16:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)


Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Narration

application creators might choose to hide specific bits of information (spoiler (Q77852))from their audience, so that they can enjoy a specific work. this property could serve as a tool to do that. -- Shisma (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. But don't we already have a property to document which part of a story is the one where an event or character appears? Thierry Caro (talk) 23:25, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support MartinPoulter (talk) 13:16, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 15:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2019 (EST)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I like this line of thinking, but it also seems like a bit of a subjective property. For example, is it a spoiler that a character appears in a work if they're not introduced in the first page (an extreme example, but illustrative of my line of thinking)? --SilentSpike (talk) 21:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
    • It could require a reference to support claims of spoiler-ness. Darth Vader being Luke's father is widely discussed as constituting a spoiler, but one would be hard-put to find a source describing the fact that Henry DeTamble is a time traveller as a spoiler. Arlo Barnes (talk) 23:00, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure lesser known works would have available references - plus I think the majority of spoilers can be taken as referenced from the work itself (which doesn't require a reference). Thinking on my example, I suppose the distinction can be that spoilers are statements which reveal revelations and plot points in the story of the work (as opposed to reveal information about later on in the story which is new, but not central to the plot). --SilentSpike (talk) 00:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Thierry Caro, SilentSpike, Cwf97, MartinPoulter, Valentina.Anitnelav, Shisma: ✓ Done: statement is regarded as spoiler for (P7528). − Pintoch (talk) 22:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)