Wikidata:Property proposal/is supervisor of

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is supervisor of[edit]

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DescriptionIs the natural person who is given instructions and/or orders by a supervisor in business, no profit, army, religion, public administration, academia (other than PhD).
Data typeItem
Example 1James B. ConantJ. Robert Oppenheimer
Example 2J. Robert OppenheimerEnrico Fermi
Example 3Jérôme FenoglioChristophe Ayad
Example 4Luciano FontanaAldo Cazzullo

Motivation[edit]

After the creation of Property:P7604 supervised by that I intiated, the reversed property "is supervisor of" would be highly useful and complementary. F.Gelati (talk) 14:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC), modified --F.Gelati (talk) 16:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question can you add samples? How can one determine the context? In any case, I think this is preferable over supervised by (P7604). --- Jura 15:36, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Given the sample/explanation, I think P7604 is preferable, but I'm still curious how one should determine the context of the "supervision". For doctoral advisor (P184) it's given by the property definition. --- Jura 09:36, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Answer I added the context in the ENG definition, please feel free to amend it --F.Gelati (talk) 11:29, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question who supervised whom in these samples? --- Jura 16:15, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose No need for a reverse property. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:27, 4 December 2019 (UTC).
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 06:47, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Answer In the examples the former supervises the latter --F.Gelati (talk) 08:25, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I saw that supervised by (P7604) changed names to "supervised by", and is clearer now. Great! Maybe just changing this proposal it to "is supervisor of" would make it clear that A is supervisor of B. TiagoLubiana (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2019 (UTC). Done, thanks for your suggestions --F.Gelati (talk) 11:21, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose no need for inverse properties. --Pasleim (talk) 13:59, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Seems like a relation that is better expressed by the existing inverse property. In the rare case where there's unique value in expressing the relation in this direction, and student (P802) doesn't apply, one can use significant person (P3342) with qualifier object has role (P3831), with values such as employee (Q703534), deputy (Q3250324), or helper (Q23835475). Swpb (talk) 15:33, 27 December 2019 (UTC)