Wikidata:Property proposal/hyponym

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hyponym[edit]

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   Under discussion
Descriptionword whose meaning is included in this one
Representshyponym (linguistics) (Q680042)
Data typewikibase-lexeme-sense-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Allowed valuesSenses
Examplehorse (en) → pony (en)
See alsoWikidata:Property proposal/hyperonym

Tubezlob (🙋) 15:11, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose - We should handle these logical relations between concepts in item space rather than Lexeme space. See my comment above. Deryck Chan (talk) 09:36, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support: I don't think we'll have items for every word sense. --Denny (talk) 16:10, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Different language handle concepts a bit differently and as a result it can be useful to specifically link words within a given language. ChristianKl❫ 17:17, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support While I oppose the #meronym relation, since I believe it is better modeled as a part-of relation between items, I support this one, since there can be subtle differences between the translations of a sense, which can be made explicit using the hyponym relationship (among other things). I agree with Denny that this relationship is useful for senses for which we don't have items, while I don't see how the meronym relationship would be useful for senses that do not denote items. -- Duesentrieb (talk) 11:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Marked as on hold pending new data type. Dhx1 (talk) 12:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
    • I removed "on hold" as this can benefit from further discussion and wasn't reviewed by an administrator/property creator. --- Jura 08:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose If we use this property, we may have to duplicate the hyponym relation across all synonymous senses of a given concept. This would create unnecessary redundancies as, for nouns, we can link senses to Wikidata items which already have subclass of relations established centrally. For verbs on the other hand, we can use the inverse troponym of property that has been provided. Liamjamesperritt (talk) 23:04, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Similarly there is no inverse property for subclass of (P279): there can be millions of hyponims for some senses (look e.g. "object"). --Infovarius (talk) 21:39, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Don Rumata 18:50, 20 November 2018 (UTC)