Wikidata:Property proposal/food additive usage
International Numbering System number[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | unique identifier of a food additive in the International Numbering System |
|---|---|
| Represents | International Numbering System number (Q47124511) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | food additive (Q189567), chemical substance (Q79529) |
| Allowed values | \d{3}[a-z]?(\([ivx]{1-4}\))? |
| Example | citric acid (Q159683) → 330 |
| Source | CAC/GL 36-1989: Class names and the international numbering system for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47123809) |
| Planned use | Add INS numbers for food additives listed in CAC/GL 36-1989: Class names and the international numbering system for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47123809) |
| See also | E number (P628), Open Food Facts food additive ID (P1820) |
- Motivation
This identifier is commonly used on food packaging around the world (note: USA excluded) as an identifier of a food additive in a food product. Similar to E number (P628), but different because the European Union and FAO (UN organistion) differ on what additives are permitted/registered. Dhx1 (talk) 19:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Discussion
Notified participants of WikiProject Chemistry, Wostr (talk) 21:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Support Good idea. A credible source. Matthias M. (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Comment Changed status to ready with two supporting votes and no opposing votes. Dhx1 (talk) 08:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Support − Pintoch (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
permitted food additive[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | food additive which is permitted to be present within a food item |
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| Data type | Item |
| Domain | food (Q2095) |
| Allowed values | items which are instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279) food additive (Q189567)/chemical substance (Q79529) |
| Example | fruit juice (Q20932605) → citric acid (Q159683) |
| Source | CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) |
| Planned use | Add permitted food additives from CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) to existing food items and food categories in Wikidata |
- Motivation
CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) defines the food additives which are permitted by International Standards (UN FAO) to be present within various food items/products. This property should include a qualifier "maximum food additive use level" that is defined in the next property proposal when CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) provides a maximum usage limit. Dhx1 (talk) 19:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support Makes sense to connect it to the food. Matthias M. (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Changed status to ready with two supporting votes and no opposing votes. Dhx1 (talk) 08:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support − Pintoch (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
maximum food additive use level[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | maximum allowed level of food additive permitted in a quantity of food |
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| Data type | Quantity |
| Domain | qualifier for proceeding property proposal "permitted food additive" |
| Allowed values | minimum: 0 |
| Allowed units | milligram per kilogram (Q21091747) |
| Example | fruit juice (Q20932605) → citric acid (Q159683) with qualifier "maximum food additive use level" → 3000 milligram per kilogram (Q21091747) |
| Source | CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) |
| Planned use | Add permitted food additives from CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) to existing food items and food categories in Wikidata |
- Motivation
CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) defines the food additives which are permitted by International Standards (UN FAO) to be present within various food items/products. For many permitted uses of food additives, maximum usage limits are provided by this standard. Dhx1 (talk) 19:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Discussion
- @Dhx1: Is it different from acceptable daily intake (P2542) ? Snipre (talk) 13:23, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment @Snipre: Yes, quite different from acceptable daily intake (P2542). This property proposal describes the maximum ratio of one chemical substance present within a food. acceptable daily intake (P2542) is the recommended acceptable quantity of a chemical substance/food which a human can consume each day. Dhx1 (talk) 13:49, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support Makes sense and would allow a free and international alternative to the EU database on Food Additives, which calls it maximum restriction/limit. Matthias M. (talk) 20:19, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Changed status to ready with two supporting votes and no opposing votes. Dhx1 (talk) 08:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support − Pintoch (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
JECFA database ID[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | identifier of a flavour, food additive, contaminant, toxicant or veterinary drug in the JECFA database |
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| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | chemical substance (Q79529) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example | citric acid (Q159683) → 3594 |
| Source | Evaluations of the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) (Q47128405) |
| Planned use | Provide a JECFA database ID for items in Wikidata which are included in this database. |
| Formatter URL | http://apps.who.int/food-additives-contaminants-jecfa-database/chemical.aspx?chemID=$1 |
- Motivation
Evaluations of the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) (Q47128405) is a comprehensive database managed by Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (Q905201) and which lists chemical substance (Q79529) which have been evaluated for the purpose of accessing toxicology of substances present in food. This database provides links and references to toxicology/evaluation reports. Dhx1 (talk) 21:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Discussion
- @Dhx1: What is the number of chemicals in that database ? Snipre (talk) 13:26, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment @Snipre: Counts of chemicals in this database are: 2212 flavouring agents, 743 food additives, 55 food contaminants, 105 veterinary drugs. Dhx1 (talk) 13:45, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Changed status to ready with one supporting vote and no opposing votes. Dhx1 (talk) 08:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support − Pintoch (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
JMPR database ID[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | identifier of a pesticide in the JMPR database |
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| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | pesticide (Q131656) |
| Example | diphenylamine (Q412265) → DIPHENYLAMINE |
| Source | Inventory of evaluations performed by the Joint Meeting on Pesticide Residues (Q47129221) |
| Planned use | Provide a JMPR database ID for items in Wikidata which are included in this database. |
| Formatter URL | http://apps.who.int/pesticide-residues-jmpr-database/pesticide?name=$1 |
- Motivation
Inventory of evaluations performed by the Joint Meeting on Pesticide Residues (Q47129221) is a database managed by Joint FAO/WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues (Q47129276) and which lists pesticide (Q131656) which have been evaluated. This database provides links and references to toxicology/evaluation reports. Dhx1 (talk) 21:48, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Discussion
- Support All David (talk) 07:37, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment (on all) This is only commercial food oriented. I would not like that Wikidata ontology, for openness perspective, stays aligned with industrial standard. Hence I think those properties should be tight with items like « commercialized orange juice » which would be a subclass of a broader item « orange juice » which is way less constrained. Maybe there is already items for home made meals or recipes. Hence I think the domains of this properties should be constrained to only commercial foods. author TomT0m / talk page 15:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment @TomT0m: Are you referring to domain of the permitted food additive property proposal? The permitted food additive label can be read in extended form as permitted food additive in commercially produced and distributed foods. For home made food, this permitted food additive property can simply be ignored as there is no regulation of what is added to home made food. I don't know how it'd be possible to split every food item in Wikidata into commercial and non-commercial items. What is the criteria for deciding whether something is commercial versus non-commercial? Dhx1 (talk) 13:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Dhx1: Let’s rely on sources : CODEX STAN 192-1995: General standard for food additives, 2017 English revision (Q47121559) defines a set of commercially compliant dishes. Any prepared dish can be either compliant to this code, or not. I just think that if we import this code on Wikidata, each of the defined dishes in it could have its own item, a subclass of the generic one, for example « STAN 192-199 juice » would be a subclass of fruit juice (Q20932605), and we don’t have to duplicate all of our class tree, just create the relevant items for this code.
- It seems that this norm defines its own class tree of dishes : « the food category system is hierarchical, meaning that when an additive is recognized for use in a general category, it is recognized for use in all its sub-categories, », so we can take advantage of inheritance to reduce redundancy by not repeating the same statements on the leaf if a class upper in the tree already bears it and represent their class tree (without polluting other dishes class tree). The same approach could be followed for other’s code with minimal impact. author TomT0m / talk page 09:31, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment In EU food law there is no distinction between commercial or not. It applies to everything. You can give something away for free in very small units and use only manual labor. Still the food law protects the consumer of your food. Matthias M. (talk) 12:59, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Changed status to ready with one supporting vote and no opposing votes. Dhx1 (talk) 08:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support − Pintoch (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Wostr, Dhx1, TomT0m, Snipre, Matthias M.: 
Done − Pintoch (talk) 14:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)