Wikidata:Property proposal/evokes

evokes

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

   Not done

Description	refers from a Sense to a concept (Item) that this evokes (as opposed to denoted) by this sense.
Data type	Item
Domain	Sense
Example	"soft (easy to deform)" evokes Q3236003 (hardness)
Source	ontolex:evokes
See also	P5137 ("item for this sense"), which I believe should be renamed to "denotes" (ontolex:denotes)

Motivation

It is useful to connect Senses to Items, but not all Senses have (or should have) items they directly denote: The lexeme "speed" should denote Q3711325, but the lexeme "slow" should not (and we don't really need an Item on "slowness"). Instead, we should have a way to indicate that "slow" evokes the concept of speed. This distinction follows the example of the W3C ontolex standard for linguistic modeling. Duesentrieb (talk) 11:37, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support makes sense to me - however perhaps a longer label for this property is more helpful to be clearer what it is for? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
  • how about "evokes concept"? -- 2003:E9:EF3D:88E8:507:C587:9DDE:AF9 22:01, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
•  Oppose. The idea of this property is too fuzzy, vague concept and it is not too well-defined, unfortunately. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 16:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I'd say it's less fuzzy than item for this sense (P5137). What do you propose as an alternative? Would you rather have no connection words like "soft" to an item? -- Duesentrieb (talk) 16:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Andrew − Pintoch (talk) 11:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done No consensus.--Micru (talk) 09:51, 22 December 2018 (UTC)