Wikidata:Property proposal/distribution map of taxon

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distribution map of taxon[edit]

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Description(Dynamic) distribution map of taxon
Representsshould be similar to taxon range map image (P181), but not static. Perhaps an instance of distribution map (P1846).
Data typeGeographic shape
Domainproperty; f.ex. Q301535 could link to c:Data:Atlas de Mamíferos de Portugal/Arvicola sapidus.map
Allowed valuestext
Example 1MISSING
Example 2MISSING
Example 3MISSING
Planned useI intend to add distribution maps for all species of mammals present in portugal, see c:User:GoEThe/Atlas de Mamíferos de Portugal
See also(note the different datatype)

Motivation[edit]

I have recently started importing geojson data related to the distribution of mammals in Portugal to Commons. I was following mw:Help:Map Data and Wikidata:Map data to help me use this new format, when I realized I couldn't link this to the species item because a taxon is not a geoshape (P3896). taxon range map image (P181) is for static images of distribution maps, and distribution map (P1846) is not specific for biological taxa. So, I think this should be a new property. GoEThe (talk) 17:56, 10 January 2020 (UTC) 99of9
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Discussion[edit]

taxon range map image (P181) is not for geo-shape data. GoEThe (talk) 18:01, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Could you please provide some examples other like the one from c:User:GoEThe/Atlas de Mamíferos de Portugal. --Succu (talk) 21:30, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Use P181 (Taxon range map image). It has been used for many plants: see Q15287793, Q14861081, Q15366854 and many, many other plant species. As it is an image shape maps can be used. However, they are static. Linking to live maps would mean that such live maps MUST be CC-BY-0. Your example fits that requirement, but how many others do? MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:01, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support I think we should migrate all the image maps to geoshapes in the future. --Tinker Bell 18:34, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Reject (in its current form.) Geoshapes are NOT appropriate for occurrence data. They are not the form of the occurrence data given in the example, and they imply an (unjustified) inference by their maker of continuities which may well fail to exist. The proposal above only makes sense if the datatype proposed is a URL. MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
The Atlas I am using uses presence/absence in an area (in a 10x10km UTM grid) instead of point localities, but provide the coordinates in the centroid of each square. Still, I am trying to figure out how to transform the data to polygon data, in order to display it correctly, as it is done in the original publication. This is a common form of publishing Atlas data. Any distribution range map infers presence in a continuum, so I don't understand that objection. I also don't understand why such maps must be CC-BY-0 if they are hosted in Wikimedia Commons. The example I gave is CC-BY-SA-4.0. Here are other examples: [1] GoEThe (talk) 12:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I don't think Wikimedia should include occurence data, such as every location where a given species has been observed. I think this property should be for polygon data such as IUCN's maps (unfortunately not CC). The example I gave is similar in that the presence is given per unit in a square grid. GoEThe (talk) 12:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)