Wikidata:Property proposal/creator's signature

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creator's signature[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Descriptionimage of the artist's mark on the work identifying themselves as such: name, initials or monogram; sometimes including "fecit", "sculpsit" or "pinxit"
Representssignature (Q1373131)
Data typeCommons media file
Domainpaintings and other works
Allowed valuesimage of artist's signature only
Example 1Adam (Q27697307)File:Duerermonogramm Adam 1507.jpg
Example 2Landscape with a Footbridge (Q3888854)File:Albrecht Altdorfer monogram (Footbridge Landscape, in the sky).jpg
Example 3Q69773698File:Suzette Holtens monogram 1932.jpg
Example 4Repair work on the railway (Q16691862)File:Savitsky Repair work on the railway gtg signature1.jpg
Example 5Teodelapio (Q3983835)File:Firma_di_Alexander_Calder_sul_Teodelapio_a_Spoleto.JPG
Example 6Sgraffiti of Ludwigstraße 14 (Bad Kötzting) (Q70919212)File:Bad Koetzting Ludwigstr 14 005.jpg
Example 7Margrave Christoph I of Baden (Q29480571)File:Hans Baldung - autograph in the painting Markgraf Christoph I. von Baden.JPG
Example 8Altar of St. Maria (Auhausen) (Q70919615)File:Auhausen_St._Maria_475gf.JPG
Example 9Bronze knight (Q70919879)File:Klagenfurt_St._Peter_Welzenegg_Gottscheer_Strasse_1_Filialkirche_hl._Ulrich_Monument_Baron_Kaiserstein_Detail_29122016_5914.jpg
Example 10Q20480097File:MelvilleSignatur.JPG
Example 11Musikantenbrunnen, Oberhaching (Q65517779)File:Oberhaching Musikantenbrunnen (4).jpg
Example 12Copper statue of Saint Thomas (Q70920699)File:Villach Obere Fellach Kupferblech-Statue hl Thomas Monogramm des Kunstschmieds 26062017 9883.jpg
Example 13Landscape with Woodcutter (Q70921444)File:Albrecht Altdorfer monogram (Woodcutter Landscape, cut into a tree).jpg
Example 14Christ and the Adulteress (Q70921935)File:Alessandro allori, cristo e l'adultera, 1577 (s. spirito) 09 firma.jpg
Example 15The Annunciation, with Saint Emidius (Q642198)File:Carlo crivelli, annunciazione con sant'emidio, dalla chiesa dell'annunciazione ad ascoli 12 firma.jpg
Example 16Saint Jerome in His Study (Q1989202)File:Albrecht dürer, san girolamo nello studio, 1521, 03 libri con firma.jpg
Example 17Assumption of the Virgin (Q70922928)File:Andrea boscoli, assunzione della vergine coi ss. francesco e caterina da siena, 1605 ca. (san ginesio, chiesa di s. francesco) 11 piede e firma.jpg
Example 18Venus and Cupid (Q70923347)File:Alessandro allori, venere e amore, 1575-80 ca. (montpellier, museo fabre) 09 firma.jpg
Example 19Argenteuil (Q2860945)File:Edouard manet, argenteuil, 1874, 04 firma.jpg
Example 20Annunciation (Q3618170)File:Bartolomeo vivarini, annunciazione, 1472 (modugno, chiesa matrice) 03 firma e data.jpg
Example 21Q70970430File:Boccaccio boccaccino, madonna in trono tra i ss. vincenzo e antonio da padova, 1518, da s. vincenzo, 06 firma.jpg
Example 22Self-portrait (Q70970953)File:Cagnaccio di san pietro, autoritratto, 1938, 03 firma.jpg
Example 23Q70972122File:Cagnaccio di san pietro, primavera, 1923-25, 03 firma.jpg
Example 24Q70972435File:Felice damiani, cristo nutrito dagli angeli, 1598, 03 firma e data.jpg
Example 25Q70972929File:Galeazzo e giovan battista ghidoni, resurrezione del bambino annegato, 1620-25 ca. 08 firma.jpg
Example 26Q70973369File:Georges seurat, la riva sottovento a honfleur, 1886, 02 firma.jpg
Example 27Q70973703File:Giampietro silvio, cristo morto sostenuto da tre angeli, 1520-50 circa (san giacomo a serina) 05 firma.JPG
Example 28Q70974892File:Paul gauguin, il suonatore di zufolo sulla collina, 1889, 02 firma.jpg
Example 29Q71003533File:Augsburg Schaezlerpalais Mattes 2013-05-05 (5).JPG
Example 30Q71003837File:Balthasar van der ast, natura morta con frutta, conchiglie e tulipano, 1620, 03 firma e data, pesca.jpg
Example 31Q71004021File:Blick auf Steyr 19Jh Signatur.jpg
Example 32Saint Francis of Assisi and scenes of his life (Q3947103)File:Bonaventura Berlinghieri, San Francesco e storie della sua vita, 1235, 06 firma.jpg
Example 33Neptune's Horses (Q30065510)File:Batch Mattes 20130310 NP (15).JPG
Example 34Max Schmitt in a Single Scull (Q1913390)File:Detail max schmitt in a single scull thomas eakins.jpeg
Example 35Portrait of Edith (the artist's wife) (Q24050831)File:Egon schiele, ritratto di edith (la moglie dell'artista), 1915, 04 firma.jpg
Example 36Q71004456File:Endre1Nemes2.JPG
Example 37Q71004596File:Endre2Nemes2.JPG
Example 38Q71004737File:Fabrizio boschi, cristo verso il calvario e la veronica, 1613, 03 firma.jpg
Example 39Q71005775File:Francesco gioli, contadina con cesta alla vendemmia, 1895, 03 firma.jpg
Example 40Q71005963File:Giovanni fattori, in ricognizione, 1899, 02 firma.jpg
Example 41Napoleon I on his Imperial Throne (Q1282840)File:Jean-auguste-dominique ingres, napoleone I sul trono imperiale, 1806, 11 firma.jpg
Example 42Q71029732File:Giovanni maria butteri, sacra conversazione, 1597, 07 firma e data fiori.jpg
Example 43Charity (Q71030290)File:Il poppi, la carità, 1575-80 ca. (fi, galleria dell'accademia) 06 firma.jpg
Example 44Q71030974File:Jacob philipp hackert, marina piccola di sorrento, 1794, firma.JPG
Example 45Q71031680File:Henry carot su cartone di albert besnard, vetrata con cigni sul lago d'annecy dalla casa del pittore henry lerolle a parigi, 1890, 05 firma.JPG
Example 46Q71032418File:Lorenzo costa, sposalizio della vergine tra i ss. gioacchino, anna e un frate francescano, 1505, dall'annunziata 03 firma.jpg
Example 47Mogliano Altarpiece (Q71032685)File:Lorenzo lotto, assunta di mogliano, coi ss. g. battista, m. maddalena, giuseppe e il beato pietro da mogliano, 1548, predella 04 firma e data.jpg
Example 48The Intervention of the Sabine Women (Q1314013)File:Louis david, le sabine, 1799, 04,1 firma.jpg
Example 49Annunciation with Saints (Q71033815)File:Lorenzo veneziano, annunciazione e quattro santi, 1360-70 ca. 03 firma.JPG
Example 50Susanna bathing. (Q29863003)File:Théodore Chassériau, Susanna al bagno, 1839, firma.jpg
Example 51Q71049570File:Chaim soutine, bouquet de rose à la statue de platre, 1918, 02 firma.jpg
Example 52Chez le père Lathuille (Q1632817)File:Edouard manet, chez le père lathuille, 1879, 05 firma.jpg
Example 53
Planned use
Formatter URLhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:$1
See alsoimage (P18), signature (P109)

Motivation[edit]

An image of a painter's signature on a work can make it easier to compare them with signatures of the same painter on other paintings. I don't think the existing signature (P109) would be suitable as it's meant for items about people and its definition of "signature" somewhat differs.

Proposal following discussion with Jane023 at Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings#Artist's signature on painting. Please add more samples (Add your motivation for this property here.) --- Jura 07:28, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

  • @Sailko: it seems that many images are uploaded by you. --- Jura 06:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • One downside to that approach: Sometimes sources blow up the signature but have the painting as a whole at a resolution where the signature by itself is not clearly visible. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:35, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I always try to make a detail of the signature, if I spot. Would be nice to have a field to link that in Wikidata --Sailko (talk) 06:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Would this result in infobox clutter? It would also likely result in more cluttered Commons categories, as conceivably every distinct painting could have its own accompanying cropped signature file. -Animalparty (talk) 04:49, 2 November 2019 (UTC)