Wikidata:Property proposal/corporate domicile
corporate domicile[edit]
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Description | legal home of a corporation. Alias: place of incorporation, statutory seat |
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Data type | Item |
Domain | administrative entity |
Example 1 | Finnkino (Q5450883) → Helsinki (Q1757) |
Example 2 | Please add more examples |
Example 3 | MISSING |
Source | Please help locate a reliable source to be kept in the definition. |
Planned use | record corporate domicile / place of incorporation for current and historical companies |
See also | location of formation (P740), headquarters location (P159), located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) |
Motivation[edit]
This is an essential property in recording data about organisations.
"Place of incorporation" is currently given as an alias to location of formation (P740). The domicile may be changed, and location of formation (P740) is no longer a valid choice for the new location.
It is distinguishable from tax residence (Q1473701), which should have it's own property created. enwp: "Domicile is, in common law jurisdictions, a different legal concept to residence, though the two may lead to the same result."
The headquarters location (P159) may be different from the corporate domicile / place of incorporation.
Please help complete the proposal! Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:12, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Companies – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:22, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Why corporate domicile over place of incorporation?ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- If the concept is the same it does not matter which is primary. – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Susannaanas: It does matter how we name our properties. There's a good chance that we will be stuck with the label for a lot of time. Part of a property proposal discussion is to pick the best possible name for a property. Given that a lot of our properties follow the schema place of X, place of incorporation feels to me a bit superior to corporate domicile.ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 23:15, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- If the concept is the same it does not matter which is primary. – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Support We could use improvements like this in corporate metadata, thanks! ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Support - PKM (talk) 19:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Question is this the same as Registered office (Q65616986)? - PKM (talk) 19:51, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- As far as I understand and reading the description in enwiki– correct me if I am wrong – I would say that the proposed property is the permanent domicile of the company, which can in some jurisdictions have an additional Registered office (Q65616986). Some other jurisdictions require they must be the same. – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:04, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Oppose Use headquarters location (P159) David (talk) 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- I almost agree, but I think the use of headquarters location (P159) should be more strictly defined to serve this need. We will need the juridical home of a company, and I have a gut feeling that headquarters could be located outside the registered municipality. But if this is not the case, the property should be reconsidered. – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:04, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Trying to summarize my understanding of close matches, please comment!
- "Place of incorporation", "Statutory seat", "Corporate domicile", (possibly headquarters location (P159))
- headquarters location (P159), tax residence (Q1473701), Registered office (Q65616986)
- location of formation (P740), possibly also "Place of incorporation"
Some cleanup is needed. – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 11:04, 23 November 2019 (UTC)