Wikidata:Property proposal/code produit

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product code[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done
Descriptionan identifier for a publisher product
Data typeString
DomainQ7889, Q571, Q482994, Q11424
Allowed values
Example 1Night Shift (Q262540) → 1355 (ref : [1])
Example 2Ainsi soit je... (Q1952903) → 835 564-2 (ref : [2], [3])
Example 3Ikari Warriors (Q2796607) → 60350177 (ref : [4])
Example 4PlayStation Analog Joystick (Q7202963) → SCPH-1110
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)

Motivation[edit]

English:

We have many properties for external identifiers but nothing for the product codes. Furthermore, a same product can have many product codes. We could do a research with the product code for finding the element. YotaMoteuchi (talk) 17:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Français :

Nous avons de nombreuses propriétés pour des identifiants externes mais aucun pour les codes produits en eux-même. Par ailleurs, nous pouvons avoir plusieurs codes produits pour un même produit vendu par un éditeur de livres, jeux, disques... : une recherche sur le code produit permettrait de trouver quel est l'élément en question. YotaMoteuchi (talk) 17:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

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  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 07:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Use catalog code (P528). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
    • @Pigsonthewing: shouldn't we use P528 only for artistic elements? YotaMoteuchi (talk) 21:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
      • Its English aliases include "catalogue code" and "astronomical catalog". Its English description is "catalog name of an object". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
        • I'm not convinced by your argues: catalog here should be linked to an artistic point of view (like "opus" for a composer and so on). Check also Property talk:P528 where "product code" is not mentioned. YotaMoteuchi (talk) 22:49, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I encountered a similar use-case working with hardware (game controllers, computer models) − I was missing eg a way to model PlayStation Analog Joystick (Q7202963) → SCPH-1110. Jean-Fred (talk) 14:07, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Seems like treating products (internal) catalogues and published (external) catalogues separately is sensible. catalog code (P528) mandates a catalogue qualifier, which these will rarely, if ever have. Circeus (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose As it stands. it's not clear to me what those product codes mean in the examples. Especially when it comes to the book (not an edition). ChristianKl❫ 18:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support per Jean-Fred - could be useful, for example for hardware/some games. Sir Lothar (talk) 10:25, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Not specific enough, it is unclear to users what exactly the product code means from item to item. Dispenser (talk) 04:25, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Here, if this property is not raised (which should be easier I think), an alternative solution should be to use the property P528 as already said with a catalogue identifier. As this catalogue identifier doesn't exist in the majority of the cases (I would say "in all cases"), then a catalogue item needs to be raised when it's needed (by example : "Le Livre de Poche catalogue", "Stuffed Monkey catalogue", "Elite catalogue", and so on... YotaMoteuchi (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@ZI Jony:Please ping everybody involved in a discussion when marking proposals as not done. ChristianKl❫ 09:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)