Wikidata:Property proposal/Home kit (football)

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uniform[edit]

uniform[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Not done
DescriptionA property for the kit of a sport team.
Representskit (Q1381731)
Data typeItem
Template parameterfootball kid in en:Template:Infobox football club
Domainall football teams
ExampleReal Madrid C.F. (Q8682) --> Real Madrid C.F. home kit (Q28199035).
Sourceexternal reference, Wikipedia list article, etc.
Planned useadding to all football teams
Robot and gadget jobsYes

pattern[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Not done
DescriptionA property for the kit of a sport team.
Representskit (Q1381731)
Data typeItem
Template parameterall parameters for football kid in en:Template:Infobox football club
Domainall football teams
ExampleSee Motivation
Sourceexternal reference, Wikipedia list article, etc.
Planned useadding to all football teams
Robot and gadget jobsYes
Motivation

Hard to explain... A property for the home kit of a football team. How I suggest that it will be working:

Real Madrid C.F. (Q8682) -> Home kit (football) property -> "Real Madrid home kit" (this is an item)

The item "Real Madrid home kit" will have all the properties of en:Template:Football kit.

property distription
pattern_la pattern modifier for left arm
pattern_b pattern modifier for body
pattern_ra pattern modifier for right arm
pattern_sh pattern modifier for shorts
pattern_so pattern modifier for socks
leftarm color modifier for left arm
body color modifier for body
rightarm color modifier for right arm
shorts color modifier for shorts
socks color modifier for socks

So I am suggesting 10 properties for the football kit and 3 properties name Home kit (football), Away kit (football) and Third kit (football).

For example, that are the images and the code colors that together are forming Real Madrid home kit:

Xaris333 (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Also read en:Template:Infobox football club.

Discussion
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I think it could be enough to create a kit property, a pattern property (with commons data type) and then use existing properties (color (P462)) and qualifiers (applies to part (P518)). --Pasleim (talk) 23:35, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@Pasleim: Can you give an example? Xaris333 (talk) 08:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Real Madrid C.F. home kit (Q28199035). The use of image (P18) isn't ideal, so I propose to create a new property "pattern" and a property to link Real Madrid C.F. (Q8682) with Real Madrid C.F. home kit (Q28199035).
@Pasleim: Ok. Looks fine. So we need a property name "pattern" and a property name "Kit" or something like that. Should I change the proposal? Xaris333 (talk) 23:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes I would do so. --Pasleim (talk) 10:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
@Pasleim: I have changed it. Please correct anything you think is wrong. How can we show that with property "kit" in Real Madrid C.F. (Q8682) that Real Madrid C.F. home kit (Q28199035) is the home kit? Or the first kit? Xaris333 (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose as it would be better to model the actual uniform, not an abstract Wikipedia template. For example, pseudo-code representation of the model may start to look like:
"John Doe" is part of the "Global Football Club"
"Global Football Club" has a uniform of "Global Football Club 2017 Uniform"
"Global Football Club 2017 Uniform" has the part "Global Football Club 2017 Uniform Jersey"
"Global Football Club 2017 Uniform Jersey" has a colour of "red", with qualifier of "base colour"
"Global Football Club 2017 Uniform Jersey" has a colour of "blue", with qualifier of "secondary colour"
"Global Football Club 2017 Uniform Jersey" has a pattern of "checked"
...etc
"Global Football Club 2017 Uniform" has the part "Global Football Club 2017 Uniform Shorts"
"Global Football Club 2017 Uniform Shorts" has a colour of "blue" with qualifier of "base colour"
...etc
...etc
What are your thoughts on this kind of approach? Dhx1 (talk) 15:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

@Dhx1: I really don't understand how this works. Xaris333 (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral Proposal needs to be clarified w/r/t how many properties are being proposed – so this is just for two properties? Also "kit" should be called "uniform" to be generic. If that name change is made, I'm a support. --Swpb (talk) 21:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
  • @Swpb, Xaris333, Dhx1, Pasleim: Not done, no support votes on an old property. ChristianKl (talk) 14:22, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Unfortunately... I am not so good at English language. If someone can make a better proposal, according to the above disscusion, I will help him with my ideas. Xaris333 (talk) 14:30, 30 October 2017 (UTC)