Wikidata:Property proposal/HAL institution ID

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HAL structure ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization

Descriptionnumerical code for a research institution as stored in HAL author affiliations
RepresentsHyper Articles en Ligne (Q3144107)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainorganization (Q43229)
Allowed values[1-9]\d+
Example 1Institute of Nuclear physics of Lyon (Q3152062)2
Example 2Aimé Cotton Laboratory (Q3214360)8
Example 3Center of Theoretical Physics (Q30264813)10
Number of IDs in source35992
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL$1
See alsoHAL author ID (P4450), French national research structure identifier (P3016)


Yet another research institution identifier. It is linked to other identifiers: French national research structure identifier (P3016), ISNI (P213) and SUDOC authorities ID (P269), so it should not be too hard to import this ID using these connections. Note that records in this database have a valid_s field indicating if the record is VALID, INCOMING or OLD. This is because records in this database are added on the fly when users input institutions that do not exist in the database, which therefore contains a fair amount of duplicates. I propose to restrict this property to the VALID records (35,992 out of the 315,208 records stored), which are curated by the service and should therefore be more reliable. The proposed formatter URL only works for such records. − Pintoch (talk) 07:29, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits
Vladimir Alexiev (talk)
Daniel Mietchen (talk)
Satpal Dandiwal (talk)
Sush_0809 (talk)
John Samuel Nomen ad hoc
Simon Cobb

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  • Symbol support vote.svg Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:44, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support (disclaimer: involved in the same project as Pintoch (talkcontribslogs)). That said, I wouldn't restrict to valid records, as OLD records may refer to ancient institutions which may well exist as Wikidata entities --A3nm (talk) 18:33, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
My understanding was that records were marked as OLD when they were found to be duplicates of others - this is at least the case for a few I have been looking at. To be honest I have not found any documentation about this, so I welcome any insights! − Pintoch (talk) 19:04, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I'm not sure that an API call with a JSON output is a good catch for the formatter URL. Linking to something like AURéHAL would be better don't you think? @Pintoch: --Nono314 (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
    • @Nono314: that's much better of course, thanks! I did not know this interface existed. I have changed the formatter URL accordingly. − Pintoch (talk) 08:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Arpyia (talk) 08:37, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done @Arpyia, Pintoch, Nono314, A3nm, ArthurPSmith: --Kristbaum (talk) 12:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)