Wikidata:Property proposal/Geographical Names Board of NSW geoname ID
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Geographical Names Board of NSW geoname ID[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | identifier for a registered place in the Geographical Names Board of NSW website |
|---|---|
| Represents | Geographical Names Board of New South Wales (Q5535075) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | geographical feature (Q618123) |
| Allowed values | [0-9a-f]{8}-[0-9a-f]{4}-[0-9a-f]{4}-[0-9a-f]{4}-[0-9a-f]{12} |
| Example 1 | Epping (Q985485) → 3b629fd9-9de6-4305-b99d-5fd496bdc665 |
| Example 2 | Lavender Bay (Q21907230) → 9a3f8195-b584-4f3b-ba19-922c42203dbf |
| Example 3 | Lavender Bay (Q21907230) → 85202793-400a-49a3-aadd-358f987d4369 |
| Source | https://proposals.gnb.nsw.gov.au/public/geonames/search |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Planned use | gradual migration from old format to new format |
| Number of IDs in source | a LOT |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://proposals.gnb.nsw.gov.au/public/geonames/$1 |
| Robot and gadget jobs | yes |
| See also | Geographical Names Board of NSW ID (P3517) |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Geographical Names Board of New South Wales (Q5535075) |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Australia (Q11036831) |
Motivation[edit]
This is to replace Geographical Names Board of NSW ID (P3517), which unfortunately no longer works as a formatter (but can still be mapped one-to-one to the GNB file number). They have moved their web IDs to the new format proposed above. Note that one of the examples given has been dual-named, to recognise original Aboriginal name, so it won't necessarily always obey the single value constraint. 99of9 (talk) 11:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Notified participants of WikiProject Australia --99of9 (talk) 11:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Support JarrahTree (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)- Support MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support until GNBNSW decides to obfuscate all their identifiers again! Do you have a list of the new identifiers or a way of converting them (the new IDs don't seem to be in the file when you download all GNR records, and I tried various ways of hashing the old IDs to see if that was how it was derived but no luck)? --Canley (talk) 08:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Ha, yes. I also haven't worked out the hash function yet, and nor do I know of a list. So for now it will be a slow rollout! --99of9 (talk) 08:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- @99of9: I would guess based on the format that it is a random/unique database row key generated via Microsoft Transact-SQL's NEWID function and thus not a case of obfuscation of an underlying identifier format. It is likely to change again in the future if they pick a different database server implementation for hosting the data.
- Support --Dhx1 (talk) 13:10, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
