Wikidata:Property proposal/Adelsvapen ID

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Swedish noble family website[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Adelsvapen ID (P7931) (Talk and documentation)
DescriptionSwedish noble family on Adelsvapen-Wiki
RepresentsAdelsvapen-Wiki (Q77944274)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed values\S{2,128}
Example 1Cronman noble family (Q61881525)Cronman_nr_748
Example 2Hoffman Swedish noble family (Q70326138)Hoffman_nr_1487
Example 3Von Rohr Scandinavian noble family (Q830048)Von_Rohr_nr_807
Example 4Tre Rosor Scandinavian noble family (Q2450753)Tre_rosor
Example 5Vellingk noble family (Q2512539)Vellingk_nr_72
Example 6Adlercreutz noble family (Q4683297)Adlercreutz_nr_125
Example 7Adlercreutz noble family (Q4683296)Adlercreutz_nr_331
Example 8Aminoff noble family (Q20973577)Aminoff_nr_456
Example 9Makeléer noble family (Q61881718)Makeléer_nr_513
Example 10Maclean Swedish noble family (Q61881892)Maclean_nr_306
Example 11Von Knorring Swedish noble family (Q81349919)Von_Knorring_nr_177
Example 12Von Köhler Swedish noble family (Q4219077)Von_Köhler_nr_2085
Example 13Winblad von Walter (Q10720245)Von_Walter_nr_1127
Example 14Göthenstierna noble family (Q63892754)Göthenstierna_nr_1501
Example 15Eka family (Q16155869)Ekaätten
Sourcehttps://www.adelsvapen.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAlla+sidor&from=&to=&namespace=0&hideredirects=1
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in source3453 ref 1 24 February 2020
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.adelsvapen.com/genealogi/$1
Robot and gadget jobsBecause of the German noble family of the same name, and multiple branches of the same family raised to nobility, it will have to be done by hand
See alsogenealogics.org person ID (P1819), Roglo person ID (P7929)
Type constraint - subclass ofhuman (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)
Single value constraintno
Distinct values constraintyes

Motivation[edit]

Website containing information on >1,000 Swedish noble families based on Svenska adelns Ättar-taflor utgifna by Gabriel Anrep (1821-1907) published in 1850. It was the republished in 1925 by Gustaf Magnus Elgenstierna (1871-1948) with correction and additions, and was recently migrated online in a Wiki format. We have some entries for the noble families already in Wikidata. Many of the noble families in Sweden came from Germany and sometimes we have a separate entry for the Swedish noble family, and we have a separate entry for the German noble family here at Wikidata. Sometimes they are combined in Wikipedia and we may have to split them. When introduced into the House of Nobility in Sweden they are awarded a new coat-of-arms that is a variation on their original German one. Sometimes as with Adlercreutz (see above), there are multiple branches of the same family awarded honors and again we may have to split entries. Some families are also members of the Finnish House of Nobility and they are marked as a "Scandinavian noble family" (see: Von Rohr above). Please feel free to modify my proposal. --RAN (talk) 03:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support - Salgo60 (talk) 23:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2020 (UTC).
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): I tried to create this property but an automatic check failed: no description has been provided. Please fix your proposal and your property will be created shortly. This is an automated message but do not hesitate to ping me if you need any help. − Pintoch (talk) 09:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
    @Pintoch: Fixed! --RAN (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
    No notification without signature. And see below too (after i have already completed several things on your proposal), please RAN. —Eihel (talk) 16:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
    Signature and notification on the same time, otherwise, it doesn't work. Changing the signature doesn't change from the content of the message. —Eihel (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote oversat.svg Strong oppose bad domain (or put in type constraint - subclass of field). Could you put the number of catalog entries in the right place (number of ids) with a reference (source), please. —Eihel (talk) 04:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

ChristianKl (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC) Melderick (talk) 12:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Richard Arthur Norton Jklamo (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson Gap9551 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC) Jrm03063 (talk) 15:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Salgo60 (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC) Egbe Eugene (talk) Eugene233 (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Dcflyer (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2018 (UTC) Nomen ad hoc Gamaliel (talk) 13:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 11:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Theklan (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy and @Trade, Pintoch: ✓ Done Adelsvapen ID (P7931)Eihel (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)