Wikidata:Property proposal/shadows
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counterpart position (alias: shadows OR opposite number)[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization
| Description | ruling party position which this opposition political party position is the counterpart of or shadows |
|---|---|
| Represents | tailing (Q47436102) |
| Data type | Item |
| Allowed values | position (Q4164871) |
| Example 1 | Shadow Attorney General for England and Wales (Q23674385) → Attorney General for England and Wales (Q2631987) |
| Example 2 | Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care (Q7460596) → Secretary of State for Health and Social Care (Q3397406) |
| Example 3 | Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Q25906187) → Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Q162754) |
| Example 4 | Leader of the Opposition (Q2741536) → Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (Q14211) |
| Source | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Opposition_Shadow_Cabinet_(United_Kingdom) |
| Planned use | to add to all shadow cabinet positions, indicating what position is responsible for shadowing another goverenment position |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
Motivation[edit]
My motivation is to make the link clearer between the government offices and opposition offices PoliceSheep99 (talk) 01:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Comment Is this peculiar to the UK, or is it common in other countries (or is there perhaps a more general label that would apply more broadly)? Ah, I see en:Shadow Cabinet lists some other countries it applies or may apply to. Well, this is obviously better than using something totally generic like opposite of (P461), but I'm not entirely convinced yet... ArthurPSmith (talk) 22:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)- Comment Agree with ArthurPSmith. This would be a good relationship to encode, the trouble is what to call it more generically, to allow eg relations like (U.S) House Minority Leader -> House Majority Leader, etc. Something like "governing party counterpart" seems a step closer, except we might want the property to also encode the reverse relationship, eg Government minister -> shadow minister. A search for "leader of the opposition" finds a lot of examples, also at eg state levels as well as country levels, so I think this property could have quite wide scope, given the right label. Jheald (talk) 17:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- @PoliceSheep99, Jheald: Maybe "counterpart position"? With "shadows" as an alias? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Support "counterpart position", with aliases like "opposite number" etc., and the understanding that this is for direct political counterpart roles only, and not for more general understandings of "counterpart position" or "opposite number" such as eg more general correspondences between roughly equivalent roles in different countries, or in other contexts. If we want something for relationships like that it should be a different property. But support for this property, with this specific meaning. Jheald (talk) 15:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)- Support I adjusted the label and description, do these seem ok now? ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Support, an important property for the policy.--Arbnos (talk) 21:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- @PoliceSheep99, Jheald, ArthurPSmith, Arbnos:
Done --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 00:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
