Wikidata:Property proposal/located in the ecclesiastical territorial entity

located in the ecclesiastical territorial entity[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Done: located in the ecclesiastical territorial entity (P5607) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the item is located on the territory of the following ecclesiastical entity.
Represents	religious administrative entity (Q51041800)
Data type	Item
Domain	parish (Q102496), deanery (building) (Q46614560), deanery (Q385337)
Example 1	collegiate church of Saint Stephen (Q17625923) → Parish of Saint Stephen (Q55770893)
Example 2	Parish of Saint Stephen (Q55770893) → Pastoral Community of Blessed Virgin of the Rosary (Q55771202)
Example 3	Pastoral Community of Blessed Virgin of the Rosary (Q55771202) → Deanery of Vimercate (Q55770881)
Example 4	Deanery of Vimercate (Q55770881) → Vicariate of Monza (Q55770873)
Source	it:Parrocchie dell'arcidiocesi di Milano, it:Parrocchie della diocesi di Verona, it:Parrocchie della diocesi di Roma...
See also	diocese (P708)

Motivation[edit]

As for administrative units, it is useful to have a property to indicate the ecclesiastical unity in which are located churches, parishes, deaneries, pastoral communities... Yiyi .... (talk!) 13:37, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Comment to view the labels of the samples, try uslang=it
--- Jura 17:53, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jura1: That link does not override a user interface language set in Special:GlobalPreferences. Mahir256 (talk) 18:02, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry .. setlang=it in that case.
    --- Jura 18:11, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - I created also the English labels. --Yiyi .... (talk!) 19:12, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support David (talk) 07:36, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support --CristianNX (talk) 08:29, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment maybe churches and religious buildings should be added to "domain" (in line with the sample).
--- Jura 08:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment We already have diocese (P708) - perhaps we should expand its scope, instead of creating a new property? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:57, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought something like country (P17) and located in the administrative territorial entity (P131). Maybe for a church or a parish it is useful to have both properties (diocese (P708) and the proposed one). But if you think it may be enough to expand the scope of diocese (P708), it's fine with me. --Yiyi .... (talk!) 09:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Noting my Oppose; use P708. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:53, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support to the property, but also to the idea of expanding diocese (P708)'s purpose. It is something that can be very interesting to decide, since we're discussing a huge donation of data from ecclesiastical sources. (Also, it'd be very interesting to double check current maps about "ecclesiastical administrative divisions"). --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 14:47, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support diocese (P708) has limits, I see it right these days when I need to lists all the church properties in a certain area and I only get easily the list of the churches.--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:31, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]