Wikidata:Property proposal/black-and-white photograph

black-and-white photograph

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done

Description	photograph in black-and-white of the subject, whether old or not and whatever may be the origin of the lack of color
Represents	black-and-white photograph (Q91078098)
Data type	Commons media file
Domain	Visual reality
Example 1	Emmanuel Macron (Q3052772) → File:Emmanuel Macron par Claude Truong-Ngoc avril 2015.jpg
Example 2	Eryngium giganteum (Q3299334) → File:Bloemknoppen van Eryngium giganteum 'Miss Willmott's Ghost' 04-06-2019. (d.j.b). 01.jpg
Example 3	St. Louis Cathedral, Port-Louis (Q2942379) → File:Mauritius Saint Louis Cathedral.jpg
See also	image (P18)

Motivation

I think black-and-white photograph (Q91078098) are too prevalent in visual culture not to have a dedicated Wikidata property. Whether they come from the times when black-and-white photography (Q3381576) was the only option or they are the result of contemporary aesthetics (Q35986), they are a staple of our visual representations of the world. The new property could be used in a number of different ways, for example to build 'somber' galleries of selected dead people or much more surely, really, whatever else. Thierry Caro (talk) 09:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

Susannaanas (talk) 07:40, 29 March 2016 (UTC) Abbe98 (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2016 (UTC) Iberti (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC) Eetu Mäkelä (talk) 18:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC) Jura. Good idea! Interested in place names (mainly). Humphrey Southall (talk) 13:43, 11 April 2016 (UTC) Fralambert (talk) 22:36, 11 April 2016 (UTC) Rainer Simon (talk) 10:10, 17 April 2016 (UTC) Melderick (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2016 (UTC) Llywelyn2000 (talk) 16:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 10:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC) Capankajsmilyo (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Ainali (talk) 08:59, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Jheald (talk) 01:15, 17 February 2017 (UTC) B20180 (talk) 05:33, 27 July 2017 (UTC) Elinese (talk) 19:19, 23 March 2018 (UTC) Salgo60 (talk) 10:34, 13 April 2018 (UTC) PKM (talk) 01:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC) Tris T7 ^{TT me} Tris T7 (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2019 (UTC) Sp!ros (talk) 16:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC) Pollockc (talk) 18:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC) ChristianSW (talk) 14:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC) Stephen Gadd (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2022 (UTC) Iain Hallam (talk) 01:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Historical Place.

User:Zolo
Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Vincent Steenberg
User:Kippelboy
User:Shonagon
Marsupium (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
GautierPoupeau (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Multichill (talk) 19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Susannaanas (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC) I want to synchronize the handling of maps with this initiative
Mushroom (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Jheald (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Spinster (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2015‎ (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Wittylama (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Armineaghayan (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Musedata102 (talk) 20:27, 26 November 2019 (UTC) Hannolans (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
User:Martingggg
Zeroth (talk) 02:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
User:7samurais
User:mrtngrsbch
User:Buccalon
Infopetal (talk) 17:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Karinanw (talk) 16:38, 24 March 2020‎ (UTC)
Ahc84 (talk) 17:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
User:BeatrixBelibaste
Valeriummaximum
Bitofdust (talk) 22:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Mathieu Kappler
Zblace (talk) 07:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Oursana (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Ham II (talk) 08:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts. Thierry Caro (talk) 09:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

•  Oppose too specific, should be done with qualifiers. Multichill (talk) 09:34, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose could possibly be done with SDC or qualifiers instead. Abbe98 (talk) 09:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
•  Support I would totally use this property for old prints of paintings (even if that is not the original intention). My proposal Wikidata:Property proposal/Notable print was also rejected for various reasons but if I can use this for engravings and etchings than I am also happy. Jane023 (talk) 10:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment agree that is maybe too specific I am playing around with colorized pictures that maybe can get its own property or be a qualifier.... not being a specialist but I think it could be nice to specify what technique has been used for black and white photos... looks like that is a parameter people use a lot when describing old pictures - Salgo60 (talk) 12:10, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Multichill and Abbe. Mahir256 (talk) 16:46, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose per above. --Marsupium (talk) 09:53, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done A proposal that does not seem to have won the positive opinion of the community —Eihel (talk) 00:37, 23 August 2020 (UTC)