Wikidata:Property proposal/Swedish lighthouses
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Swedish Lighthouse society ID[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Place
Not done
| Description | the Swedish Lighthouse society ("Svenska Fyrsällskapet") has a wiki with a lot of excellent information about swedish lighthouses and the families who lived there. By having a property in Wikidata we will add value by connecting this information domain with Wikidata |
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| Represents | Swedish lighthouse society (Q10685023) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | item Q39715,Q5 |
| Example 1 | Hoburg lighthouse (Q10524998) → wiki/index.php/Hoburg |
| Example 2 | Gotska Sandön (Q387843) → wiki/index.php/Gotska_Sandön |
| Example 3 | Hamnudden lighthouse (Q32248828) → wiki/index.php/Hamnudden |
| Example 4 | Karl Bourgström (Q66209580) → fyrpersonal/person.html?pid=89 |
| Source | https://fyr.org/wiki/index.php/Huvudsida |
| Planned use | populate all lighthouses and families that are relevant.... |
| Number of IDs in source | 3000 lighthouses and also some people "famous" and worked at the lighthouse |
| Expected completeness | 100% lighthouses plus some people |
| Formatter URL | https://fyr.org/$1 |
Motivation[edit]
A local active society wit speciality lighthouses will be a good complement to Wikidatas information about Swedish lighthouses Salgo60 (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Comment Maybe better to just make this for the lighthouses, and add the links for the people with described at URL (P973) or a similar statement. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
- Same opinion. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 18:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC).
- ArthurPSmith,Nomen ad hoc please explain. My hope is that we in the long run get a SPARQL Federation with them and that they also start use Wikibase. Then we "dont need" those few people in Wikidata.
- One scenario I already can see is that the wife of a lighthouse worker has donated material to the Nordic museum i.e. that means we could be able to
- ask for all people working at a lighthouse with families
- match those people with what is available at a museum
- display items related see text search. The items are available at Nordic Museum (Q1142142) not far from the location of Wikimania 2019 next week in Stockholm;)
- - Salgo60 (talk) 09:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Support David (talk) 04:36, 9 August 2019 (UTC)- How about Swedish Lighthouse society ID as the property name? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- changed name to "Swedish Lighthouse society ID" - Salgo60 (talk) 10:29, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Lighthouses Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:45, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Oppose The Swedish lighthouse society does not have unique identifiers for lighthouses in their wiki. IMHO I think it is better to just use their wiki as a source (with reference URL (P854)) or with described at URL (P973). /ℇsquilo 06:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- As an example; Enskär light (Q32233915) in Sweden and Isokari lighthouse (Q31825396) in Finland will both refer to https://fyr.org/wiki/index.php/Ensk%C3%A4r, so the identifier will not be unique. /ℇsquilo 07:35, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Esquilo: then for the few pages we will have the same id on Enskär light (Q32233915) and Isokari lighthouse (Q31825396). Wikidata is flexible if they suggest have one structure we can in Wikidata have another. As said above I hope we can get them start use Wikibase and then I guess they change the structure... We have the same vice versa problem with Swedish parishes that the Swedish SCB Regina decided to have one item per parish that is part of one "municipality" and then one item in Wikidata is one at the National Archive but can be two or more at SCB Regina see list - Salgo60 (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Esquilo: The property reference URL (P854) is not supposed to be used as a main page property as you parenthetically suggest; it has a property scope constraint (Q53869507) that the property scope (P5314) should be as reference (Q54828450). Your latter suggestion of described at URL (P973) looks right to me. - Imnasnainaec (talk) 18:08, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe you want to comment. --- Jura 22:17, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, just noticed that someone already pinged the project. --- Jura 22:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Not done no consensus to create this property --DannyS712 (talk) 07:18, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
