Wikidata:Property proposal/Parliament of South Africa ID

Parliament of South Africa ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

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Description	Identifier of a person on the Parliament of South Africa website
Represents	Parliament of South Africa (Q2185780)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	[1-9][0-9]*
Example 1	Beverley Abrahams (Q47529725) → 1226
Example 2	Beauty Dambuza (Q16744388) → 4343
Example 3	Evelyn Wilson (Q47529709) → 1686
Example 4	Patrick Maloyi (Q16744503) → 4303
Source	https://www.parliament.gov.za/group-details/0
Mix'n'match	2063
Planned use	Reference members of the South African National Assembly to their corresponding official page
Number of IDs in source	443+
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.parliament.gov.za/person-details/$1

Motivation

At the moment, members of the National Assembly of South Africa are not linked to their corresponding pages on the Parliament's official website except by the use of described at URL (P973) statements. These could be replaced by a more structured property. jacksonj04 (talk) 12:20, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support --Gerwoman (talk) 19:20, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
•  Support: analogical property was approved - Wikidata:Property proposal/Verkhovna Rada MP id --Tohaomg (talk) 20:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
•  Support David (talk) 07:41, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
•  Question Are these IDs persistent once the person leaves office? To take one example, the described at URL (P973) to the official website provided on Vuyokazi Ketabahle (Q47529718) no longer seems to be valid. The current preference is to only create new properties for parliament websites if the ID continues to be useful after leaving office — i.e there is at least one valid formatter URL (P1630) even for ex-members. --Oravrattas (talk) 10:44, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
  • I haven't found an example of an identifier being reused, but the page disappearing is definitely an issue to take into consideration. --jacksonj04 (talk) 10:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

* Neutral until the pages aren't perennial. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 08:09, 15 December 2018 (UTC).  Oppose per Oravrattas. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC).

•  Oppose as the IDs are only temporary. The existing use of described at URL (P973) seems more suitable in this case. --Oravrattas (talk) 09:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
•  Support Cwf97 (talk) 16:43, 19 December 2018 (EST)
•  Support - Salgo60 (talk) 00:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Oravrattas. Snipre (talk) 07:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Oravrattas. -- Catherine Laurence 12:45, 23 March 2019 (UTC)