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January 2016[edit]

nonfiction (Q213051)/non-fiction literature (Q27801)[edit]

Items involved: Q213051Talk, Q27801Talk Status:    partially resolved

These two elements mean the same thing, but I can't merge them, because there are two different articles in Tagalog Wikipedia. --Facenapalm (talk) 12:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tagalog item moved to Q20669574, but not merged. Aparently one is about non-fiction in general (including films ans such), the other more specific about literature. --Joostik (talk) 07:52, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

copy/copying[edit]

Items involved: Q1156791Talk, Q23013246Talk Status:    not resolved

--Matěj Suchánek (talk) 17:49, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is the conflict? --Joostik (talk) 07:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Copy (kopie, kópia) vs. copying (kopiowanie). Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:16, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Interlocking concrete pavers (Q677012)/paver (Q2612293)[edit]

Items involved: Q677012Talk, Q2612293Talk Status:    not resolved

confusion interlocking paver with simple paver Otourly (talk) 19:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

drive shaft (Q6304756) / shaft (Q309383) / Cardan shaft (Q18029395) / shaft (Q21809330)[edit]

Items involved: Q6304756Talk, Q309383Talk, Q18029395Talk, Q21809330Talk Status:    partially resolved

Three items with unclear definitions and a lot of overlap. --Joostik (talk) 09:41, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Added Q21809330. -- I checked the items and found out that the linked articles describe three different things:
  • shaft in mechanics generally
  • drive shaft in vehicles
  • cardan shaft more specific
I recommend to keep three items but differ the labels like de-Wikipedia and correct the links. -- Juetho (talk) 08:44, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look at Talk:Q309383#Related items -- Juetho (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mainly done. Three items are kept, some more replaced by redirects. A lot of articles are checked and moved. I wanted to add Property:P1889 in order to link the items but Abc82 removed the property. More information see Talk:Q309383#Related items. -- Juetho (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

February 2016[edit]

Triticum (Q12106)/wheat (Q15645384)[edit]

Items involved: Q12106Talk, Q15645384Talk Status:    not resolved

The first is about genus of plants, but the second is about staple food. All of this is in one article of most of languages. Brya (talk • contribs • logs) separated these article. He explained why he seprateted in his discussion. However, I think, these articles need to merge. --Treisijs (talk) 10:44, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Taxonomy has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

durian (Q134185)/Durio (Q2309085)[edit]

Items involved: Q134185Talk, Q2309085Talk Status:    not resolved

The English Wikipedia covers these both in the same article. Despite the fact that the enwiki page starts out describing the fruit ("The durian (/ˈdjʊriən/) is the fruit of several tree species belonging to the genus Durio"), at Talk:Q134185, User:Brya contends that enwiki page should be linked to the plant Durio (Q2309085). Most WP languages only have one article for the two concepts, but currently the links are arbitrarily fragmented between the two concepts.

This is just a fundamental problem with Wikidata requiring a 1-to-1 relation between Wikipedia articles and concepts, while WP articles frequently cover one main topic and relevant subtopics (that sometimes aren't even notable enough for an individual article). Intgr (talk) 13:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

March 2016[edit]

Pandanus fascicularis (Q11564204)/Pandanus odorifer (Q15578898)[edit]

Items involved: Q11564204Talk, Q15578898Talk Status:    in doubt

--AntanO 05:08, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seem to be different species. --Infovarius (talk) 20:56, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, the requestor had marked both for merging. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:20, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On ta.wp and on species they are marked as different species... Q.Zanden questions? 13:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do not merge. Different scientific names. May be one is taxon synonym (P1420) of the other (I didn't dive into that), but that is not always agreed upon among the scientiest and apart from that it still is not a reason to merge. Lymantria (talk) 11:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Lymantria. Even if one of the taxon names turns out to be a synonym of the other, they shouldn't be merged. Bear in min that this is Wikidata, not Wikipedia. Here all synonyms should have their own unique Wikidata item, since even though they may not be valid taxa they are still all valid taxon names. However as Lymantria explains we should of course always use taxon synonym (P1420) (and synonym (Q1040689)) to point out any synonymy, when relevant. As a side note I've mentioned this discussion at the Wikispecies "Village pump". Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:30, 18 September 2019 (UTC).[reply]
Also agree with Lymantria and Tommy. Different names, the validity is not relevant here. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:00, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Taxonomy has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. Looks like there are two eswiki now. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:13, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Do not merge.Different taxon concepts require different wikidata items.We need to map the history of taxonomy. Hence every synonym of a plant (or animal) requires a wikidata item. but with say five synonyms there should only be one wikipedia article (for the one thing). MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:51, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2016[edit]

Synoum (Q16746709)/Synoum glandulosum (Q2708719)[edit]

Items involved: Q16746709Talk, Q2708719Talk Status:    not resolved

genus or spcies --(t) Josve05a (c) 18:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC) WikiProject Taxonomy has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. (t) Josve05a (c) 09:20, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One of them is a genus, the other a species. As distinct as one could wish them to be. - Brya (talk) 10:21, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Brya: Yes, but this page is for when the interwiki links (and/or properties) are "messed up". The pecies item Q2708719 has Wikipedia-links about both the speces and the genus, while the genus item Q16746709 has zero Wikipedia links. (t) Josve05a (c) 17:05, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is not uncommon when a genus has/is perceived to have only a single species. Many users like this. - Brya (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Might not be uncommon, but which item should "have" the Wikipedia links? (t) Josve05a (c) 18:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Josve05a: I agree with User:Brya, I think this is fine as it is, with the species (the more specific entry) having all the interwiki links. Given that it's the only known species, there really is no point in separating interwikis. Can we consider this resolved? Intgr (talk) 08:37, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For most groups, the species level is the most important. However, for dinosaurs (and the like) the generic level gets more emphasis (dinosaur taxonomy does everything in reverse). - Brya (talk) 10:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Different taxon concepts require different wikidata items. If a genus has a single species the resulting wikipedia mishmash of two concepts in one should be dealt with by using a "from2" parameter in the taxonba (and when it is a case of synonymy, by adding the basionym to a wikidata item) MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:57, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

sophism (Q166955)/sophism (Q1483917)[edit]

Items involved: Q166955Talk, Q1483917Talk Status:    not resolved

Both Wikidata items refer to "sophistry"; the former refers to the Greek school of philosophy, the latter refers to the modern usage of the word to mean a specious argument. At least on the English and Simple English Wikipedias, both topics are covered by a single article; other Wikipedias appear to have similar conflicts. The Arabic Wikipedia, as best I can tell, has two separate articles broadly about the Greek philosophical school (Google Translate gives them titles of "Sophistry" and "Sophistical discussion"), and has one article linked from each Wikidata item. --Me and (talk) 14:42, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Mangs (Q557165)[edit]

Items involved: Q557165Talk Status:    not resolved

About both the event and the people. --(t) Josve05a (c) 11:19, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

wordmark (Q837816)/logotype (Q1653223)[edit]

Items involved: Q837816Talk, Q1653223Talk Status:    not resolved

Some confusion about wordmark vs logotype. --Quiddity (talk) 16:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Xanthopan morganii (Q133902)/Xanthopan (Q2506682)/Xanthopan morgani praedicta (Q23834677)[edit]

Items involved: Q133902Talk, Q2506682Talk, Q23834677Talk Status:    not resolved

--(t) Josve05a (c) 22:58, 16 April 2016 (UTC) WikiProject Taxonomy has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. (t) Josve05a (c) 09:20, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One of them is a species, the second a genus, the third a subspecies. As distinct as one could wish them to be. - Brya (talk) 10:23, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Brya: Yes, but this page is for when the interwiki links (and/or properties) are "messed up". The different items has Wikipeida links which are about the all three different kinds of instances on the wrong items. (t) Josve05a (c) 17:05, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Make that "had", when this listing was created. @Soulkeeper:. (t) Josve05a (c) 17:07, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kaprekar's constant (Q854503)/6174 (Q17144529)[edit]

Items involved: Q854503Talk, Q17144529Talk Status:    in doubt

I think these two items are referring to the same "6174 (number)", but I do not know russian language, so I cannot edit them and merge two items together. Could anyone help me? Thanks a lot!

As I tried to mark in Q854503, constant of Kaprekar has different values when the process is started from different number of digits. 6174 is only one of them (for 4-digit numbers). I suppose it is better to move en and vi-links to second item. But User:Allan Aguilar supposed in other way. --Infovarius (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

age of candidacy (Q4691918)/passive suffrage (Q11626629)[edit]

Items involved: Q4691918Talk, Q11626629Talk Status:    not resolved

Unfortunately, these pages are conflicted. From Japanese, Senkyo-Ken (選挙権) means "right of vote" and Hi-Senkyo-Ken (被選挙権) means "right of candidate" ("被" being the use of the causative form Kanji; "権" meaning "right"). --126.24.175.39 18:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 2016[edit]

courtyard (Q309250)/patio (Q737988)[edit]

Items involved: Q309250Talk, Q737988Talk Status:    not resolved

The English words "courtyard" and "patio" are translated into 中庭 in Chinese. Actually, linguistically speaking, patio is a special type of courtyard, but we would just use the general word 中庭 (courtyard) to say patio and we don't invent a special word for patio. So far so good, because both courtyard and patio articles in English wiki both have a language link pointing to the same 中庭. But when I want to add a language link to patio in *French* wiki to point to 中庭, it was rejected. I suppose it's because "cour (architecture)" in French wiki article already has a language link to 中庭. Please remove this restriction.石庭豐 (talk) 09:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How do you think if you have time to request "merging" da, de, es, he, hu, nl, no, pl, ru, simple, and sv? It's clearly two different concepts in the western world. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:44, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AC power connector (Q215292)/AC power socket (Q24237712)/AC power plug (Q24237713)[edit]

Items involved: Q215292Talk Status:    not resolved

When creating electrical plug type (P2853) with Lymantria, we noticed that the labels of AC power connector (Q215292) differ across languages. So do titles of the articles on sitelinks, but the scope of the articles may still be the same. --
--- Jura 09:33, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So the idea is that AC power connector (Q215292) represents socket+plug, AC power socket (Q24237712) only the socket and AC power plug (Q24237713) only the plug. Have also a look at User:T.seppelt/AC power plugs and sockets. I'd say that Wikipedia articles generally talk about socket+plug at the same item even though their names refer only to one of them. Most Wikipedias don't have separate articles for plug and socket. In this cases the sitelink should stay at AC power connector (Q215292) and its subclasses. -- T.seppelt (talk) 08:28, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

June 2016[edit]

Ilves[edit]

Items involved: Q537238Talk, Q1659275Talk, Q2608062Talk, Q6001351Talk, Q12646500Talk, Q21482680Talk Status:    not resolved

Could anyone review this? --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 19:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

monopoly market (Q16048255)/monopoly (Q43637)[edit]

Items involved: Q16048255Talk, Q43637Talk Status:    not resolved

could somebody with knowledge in Persian (Q9168) figure this out? --T.seppelt (talk) 20:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cistercians (Q166861)[edit]

Items involved: Q166861Talk Status:    not resolved

It's a mixup between the order and its members. Label is different in English from other languages.
--- Jura 05:58, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

opinion journalist (Q16287483)/publicist (Q4178004)[edit]

Items involved: Q16287483Talk, Q4178004Talk Status:    in doubt

--Hannibal (talk) 14:41, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What means you? Why there's confusion between Universe and Earth? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Universe (Q1) and Earth (Q2) are the default links in the heading. The items here seem to have been merged incorrectly; the related categories for people are at Category:Opinion journalists (Q6482720) and Category:Public relations people (Q10069998). Peter James (talk) 01:49, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect there may be a cognate or faux-amis crossover: in at least one language (Hebrew), the word for opinion journalist is pooblitsist (פובליציסט). -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:28, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 2016[edit]

Rescue coordination centre (Q501519)[edit]

Items involved: Q501519Talk Status:    not resolved

the Wikipedia articles connected to this item refer to different concepts (de: maritime rescue coordination centres, en: rescue coordination centres in general, no: one institution). --T.seppelt (talk) 13:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

QDOS (Q15089357)/86-DOS (Q1550345)[edit]

Items involved: Q15089357Talk, Q1550345Talk Status:    not resolved

Both items refer to the same operating system, in two phases of its history (first Q-DOS then 86-DOS). The only wiki that has both items as separate articles is fr, the others treat both names as one article only. --Banjo (talk) 10:14, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Guadeloupe raccoon (Q1028475)/Procyon minor (Q21968197)Le raton laveur de la Guadeloupe[edit]

Items involved: Q1028475Talk, Q21968197Talk Status:    not resolved

Je pense que c'est la même chose : Q1028475=The Guadeloupe raccoon / Q21968197=Le raton laveur de la Guadeloupe

androgyny (Q207959)[edit]

Items involved: Q207959Talk Status:    not resolved

--Matěj Suchánek (talk) 11:54, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Q915263/Q3945/Q8990577/Q4387616[edit]

Items involved: Q915263Talk, Q3945Talk, Q8990577Talk, Q4387616Talk Status:    partially resolved

--GZWDer (talk) 18:34, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

At least you need to ask users who active on Wikiversity, e.g. @Dave Braunschweig, Abd: --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The first one is merged to Wikipedia:Tutorial (Q915263), hence partially. --117.13.95.87 06:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Never Shout Never[edit]

Items involved: Q456190Talk Status:    not resolved

Group, or just one person? --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 15:34, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think we might want to make two items even if both can include "Never Shout Never" as label or alias. Q1072288 is a duo that become a single performer. I sorted sitelinks based on which they describe.
--- Jura 19:24, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

August 2016[edit]

dermatitis (Q229256)/eczema (Q988594)[edit]

Items involved: Q229256Talk, Q988594Talk Status:    not resolved

Hi! Those articles are about the same topic. Some of them are linking to the redirect page, but they all articles should be linked to the "non-redirect page" one. Regards.—Teles «Talk to me˱M @ C S˲» 16:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pinus brutia subsp. eldarica (Q21384170)/Pinus brutia var. eldarica (Q24764435)[edit]

Items involved: Q21384170Talk, Q24764435Talk Status:    not resolved

--Mullanur (talk) 11:48, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Archbishop of Kraków (Q17375334)/list of archbishops of Kraków (Q1789484)[edit]

Items involved: Q17375334Talk, Q1789484Talk Status:    not resolved

--Majella1851 (talk) 20:18, 10 August 2016 (UTC) @Majella1851:. Looks good to me. What do you think is the problem?[reply]
--- Jura 09:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Ideal City (Q17379598)/The Ideal City (Q7741335)[edit]

Items involved: Q7741335Talk, Q17379598Talk Status:    not resolved

The Ideal City (painting) has been created in English as an entry about a single painting (the so called "Baltimore" panel) and mentions two others variants. In other languages (french, Italian) an other variant (called the "Urbino") is taken as the main subject and mentions the others. It seems that the English case reflected a minority's view and it has been rewritten but now there is conflict.195.96.229.126 09:51, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Snowdonia National Park (Q20888920)/Snowdonia (Q867913)[edit]

Items involved: Q20888920Talk, Q867913Talk Status:    not resolved

Appear to be overlapping terms, may wiki sites are one or the other but a few languages have both. --Traveler100 (talk) 06:37, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wives of national leaders (Q6491422)/Category:Spouses of national leaders (Q24091400)[edit]

Items involved: Q6491422Talk, Q24091400Talk Status:    not resolved

English labels are identical, and language interwikis are mostly disjoint except for nl. -Mwtoews (talk) 00:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not only nl, but also uk & zh. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:51, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just note that in Chinese, the first category is for feminine only, and second could have masculine. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:02, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Icebreaker (Q236055)/Iesbreker (Q15807620)[edit]

Items involved: Q236055Talk, Q15807620Talk Status:    not resolved

DE has disambiguation pages for both Icebreaker (very specific use of the engl word, e.g. as a company) as well as Eisbrecher (as the general term, e.g. type of ship and drink). This of course is not separated on the EN side Icebreaker which is currently linked to the engl word in DE (very specific version). --Aeroid (talk) 06:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

enterprise (Q6881511)/company (Q783794)[edit]

Items involved: Q6881511Talk, Q783794Talk Status:    not resolved

--Luan (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Different notions. --Infovarius (talk) 10:30, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grocka (Q2667895)/Grocka (Q691992)[edit]

Items involved: Q2667895Talk, Q691992Talk Status:    not resolved

Bonjour,

Je suis tombé sur une ville qui possède deux numéros Q, Grocka en Serbie. Les numéros sont Q2667895 et Q691992. En partant de la page en français dans Wikipedia (Q2667895), on peut passer de l'un à l'autre par l'anglais ou l'italien qui mènent au Q691992, mais pas dans l'autre sens. Les autres langues semblent séparées et certaines mènent à des articles différents. Comment faire pour les fusionner (ou les séparer complètement) ? 


   ar غروتسكا
   bg Гроцка (община)
   bs Grocka
   de Grocka
   el Γκρότσκα
   en Grocka
   hr Grocka (općina)
   it Grocka
   ka გროცკის თემი
   ms Grocka
   nl Grocka
   no Grocka
   pl Grocka
   ru Гроцка (община)
   sh Opština Grocka
   sr Градска општина Гроцка
   tr Grocka
   zh 格羅茨卡

et 

   bg Гроцка
   fr Grocka
   hr Grocka
   ru Гроцка
   sh Гроцка
   sl Grocka
   sr Гроцка

Merci !

J'ajoute les langues visibles de la page Wikipedia en français : 

Български
Bosanski
Deutsch
English
Hrvatski
Italiano
Nederlands
Norsk bokmål
Polski
Русский
Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски
Slovenščina
Српски / srpski
中文


et celles de l'anglais : 


   العربية
   Български
   Bosanski
   Deutsch
   Ελληνικά
   Hrvatski
   Italiano
   ქართული
   Bahasa Melayu
   Nederlands
   Norsk bokmål
   Polski
   Русский
   Српски / srpski
   Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски
   Türkçe
   中文Fortelle65 (talk) 18:16, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

September 2016[edit]

Brömsebro (Q2027018)/Brömsebro (Q26202673)[edit]

Items involved: Q2027018Talk, Q26202673Talk Status:    in doubt

Brömsebro (Q2027018) exists also on Svwp, and there you can see links to all the other languages. The problem is that if you go to Enwp (or other languages) you can not see the svwp-article. I tried to add the language on wikidata but got a conflict ("Länken svwiki:Brömsebro används redan av objekt Q26202673. Du kan ta bort den från Q26202673 om den inte hör hemma där eller slå samman objekten om de är om exakt samma ämne.") and can not solve it. --Adville (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Adville: maybe @Innocent bystander: can help, since he is both Swedish and intimate with the specifics of areas in Sweden. --Izno (talk) 12:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adville, Izno: The problem here is that today is Brömsebro two "småorter" (small urban areas with a population of 50-199). And the Swedish article is about both these two urban areas. We then need to have separate items for each of these two statistical entities, to keep the integrity of the database. (Otherwise we do not know which population and area-numbers belongs to which småort.) The Swedish article is therefor connected to an item about "a group of human settlements", who "has part" each of these two statistical entities. One solution could be to migrate the enwp-sitelink from Q2027018 to Q25964111. I leave it to you to judge if the English article is about the group of entities or only about one of them. Based on how they are linked today, it looks like the English article hasn't been updated with statistical numbers since Brömsebro was split by Statistics Sweden. Anyhow, these two items should anyhow not be merged, but the sitelinks could be modified. The interwiki from svwp to enwp you see in svwp today is maintained by "Template:Interwiki extra", but that solution only works in one direction. There is a sister-template to that on some projects, but I do not know how it looks like at enwp. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 13:39, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ypthima baldus (Q578810)/Ypthima argus (Q5974947)[edit]

Items involved: Q578810Talk, Q5974947Talk Status:    not resolved

The English Wikipedia page Ypthima baldus (Q578810) should be linked oto the Japanese wikipage ヒメウラナミジャノメ(Ypthima argus (Q5974947) because they are about the same butterflyThe Nature Box (talk) 13:15, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The taxonomy WikiProject does not exist. Please correct the name. --117.15.55.114 09:13, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Napoleon cake (Q15906640)/mille-feuille (Q12491)[edit]

Items involved: Q15906640Talk, Q12491Talk Status:    not resolved

Q15906640 is just another version of Q12491. It would even be possible to auto-merge them, if it weren't for the fact that the Luxembourgian Wikipedia has two different pages; the one in Q15906640 even says, in its first sentence, that "Napoleon is the English, Scandinavian and Slavic designation for mille-feuille." Similarly, the Norwegian article says that the only difference between a "Torte Napoleon" and a "mille-feuille" is the frosting. Finally, on Q12491, 'napoleonskake' is entered as the Norwegian word for mille-feuille. Any thoughts on what should be done here? --DarkPhoenix (talk) 19:16, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And how do you think about both commons categories? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:05, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DarkPhoenix: Additionally, there's only two lb-N users: @MMFE, Robby: what to do with both? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:27, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Food Notified participants of WikiProject France --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:20, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

self-management (Q846360)/workers' self-government (Q627232)[edit]

Items involved: Q846360Talk, Q627232Talk Status:    not resolved

Both refer to autogestion leading to a lack of xref between e.g. the Fr and En wikipedia on the topic --Gallais (talk) 08:52, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnadenia nigra (Q158951)/Nigritella nigra (Q15523284)[edit]

Items involved: Q158951Talk, Q15523284Talk Status:    not resolved

Gymnadenia nigra; same name and pictures at enWp/nlWP, though clashes at other wikis -- — billinghurst sDrewth 11:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Taps (Q493382)/Taps (Q14811107)[edit]

Items involved: Q493382Talk, Q14811107Talk Status:    not resolved

Both means musical piece sounded at dusk or funerals. --Ran Ayase (talk) 11:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

theory (Q9295456)/axiomatic system (Q792542)[edit]

Items involved: Q9295456Talk, Q792542Talk Status:    not resolved

same concept, can't merge because of what seem to be a duplicate on ptwiki --author  TomT0m / talk page 17:22, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Physics --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Mathematics
frwiki has both entries, where "theory" and "system" are not entirely identical. Lymantria (talk) 13:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
French article clearly explains the difference: an axiomatic system is a set of axioms used to derive theorems and a theory is the axiomatic AND the derived theorems. Snipre (talk) 03:54, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the Portuguese interwiki as it was merely a Redirect. They seem to be different concepts, though. To complement Snipre point, the same difference is mentioned in the English Wikipedia. - Sarilho1 (talk) 12:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Left of center (Q16872010)/Secular left (Q7444782)[edit]

Items involved: Q16872010Talk, Q7444782Talk Status:    not resolved

Spanish article is not the interwiki of the English and Turkish articles.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Q16964590/Baie Coucoucache (Q22480244)/Petite Baie Coucoucache (Q22480234)[edit]

Items involved: Q16964590Talk, Q22480244Talk, Q22480234Talk Status:    not resolved

Frwiki for Q16964590 talks about both Q22480244 and Q22480234.--Laurianna2 (talk) 00:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

October 2016[edit]

Canaries (Q1032796)/Canaries Quarter (Q9184399)[edit]

Items involved: Q1032796Talk, Q9184399Talk Status:    not resolved

In the enwiki, there is a redirection from Canaries Quarter to article linked to Q1032796, but Canaries Quarter refers to Q9184399, and I can't put it in the right element.--Laurianna2 (talk) 23:56, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dragons of Autumn Twilight (Q18450141)/Dragons of Autumn Twilight (Q2346673)[edit]

Items involved: Q18450141Talk, Q2346673Talk Status:    not resolved

Both seem to be about the same book, but one of the items seems to have different ISBN (for a Swedish translation) and one more author than the other. --(t) Josve05a (c) 21:16, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

classification yard (Q519608)/rail yard (Q19563580)[edit]

Items involved: Q519608Talk, Q19563580Talk Status:    not resolved

Both articles w:en:Classification yard and w:en:Rail yard at English Wikipedia are linked to w:it:Stazione di smistamento (the forst through WikiData element, the second through "old stile" interlaguage link in wikicode). --5.170.8.21 22:35, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Multichill (talk) Thryduulf (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC) -revi (talk • contribs • logs)-- 01:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC) (was Hym411) User:JarrahTree (talk) 06:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC) A.Bernhard (talk) 08:28, 9 November 2013 (UTC) Micru (talk) 12:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC) Steenth (talk) YLSS (talk) 13:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Konggaru (talk) 12:31, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Elmarbu (talk) 21:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC) Nitrolinken (talk) 16:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC) George23820 Talk‎ 17:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Daniele.Brundu (talk) 21:34, 30 August 2015 (UTC) Dannebrog Spy (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2015 (UTC) Knoxhale 18:39, 26 June 2016 (UTC) happy5214 22:48, 8 July 2016 (UTC) Jklamo (talk) 07:32, 15 August 2016 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits DarTar (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2016 (UTC) Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 01:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC) Sascha GPD (talk) 23:00, 1 February 2017 (UTC) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC) A1AA1A (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC) Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 13:56, 9 June 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson 10:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC) Danielt998 (talk) 05:01, 28 August 2017 (UTC) Maxim75 (talk) 06:04, 22 September 2017 (UTC) Fabio Bettani (talk) 17:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC) Geogast (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC) Bodhisattwa (talk) 19:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Jinoytommanjaly (talk) 13:13, 21 May 2019 (UTC) OktaRama2010 (talk) 00:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC) PhiH (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2020 (UTC) Jcornelius (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC) Mackensen (talk) 15:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC) Michgrig (talk) 22:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC) Trockennasenaffe (talk) 16:27, 5 September 2021 (UTC) Secretlondon (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC) GALAXYライナー (talk) 05:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC) Yirba (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC) Zwantzig (talk) 09:08, 07 September 2023 (UTC) S4b1nuz ᴇ.656(SMS) 16:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC) Prefuture (talk) 07:02, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Railways --117.15.55.114 09:10, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016[edit]

Ayora supplements (Q4991662)/Moses of Évreux (Q7884538)[edit]

Items involved: Q4991662Talk, Q7884538Talk Status:    not resolved

Share a link to hewiki as True duplicates. I cannot decide which one is to be removed and which one to stay. --Lymantria (talk) 15:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

historical drama (Q7168625)/historical film (Q17013749)[edit]

Items involved: Q7168625Talk, Q17013749Talk Status:    in doubt

Could not be merged.--Hubon (talk) 20:59, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And I suppose they shouldn't. Second can include also historical comedies and tragedies. --Infovarius (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but wouldn't there then be any other English equivalent that could be linked with the second?--Hubon (talk) 23:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ask English Wikipedia :) --Infovarius (talk) 10:42, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile Servicing System (Q1677899)/Canadarm2 (Q559298)[edit]

Items involved: Q1677899Talk, Q559298Talk Status:    not resolved

Canada Arm 2 and the Mobile Servicing System are the same things. some wikipedias have articles related to Q1 and others to Q2 . I want to combine the two wikidata entries. is it possible? thanks

You have to ask cs, de, and lb for it. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nguyễn Trí (Q1494444)/Cane (Q20660322)[edit]

Items involved: Q1494444Talk, Q20660322Talk Status:    not resolved

Link for cane. Eg: see enwiki and simplewiki. --AntanO 10:35, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

districts of Austria[edit]

Items involved: Q871419Talk Status:    not resolved

Split. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 15:37, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mill scale (Q1844333)/Q2547711[edit]

Items involved: Q1844333Talk, Q2547711Talk Status:    in doubt

Judging from their respective Wikipedia page contents and a few dictionary searches, Walzhaut corresponds to mill scale, but currently cannot be merged as mill scale is already using Abbrand (Metallurgie) for its German entry. --JanTH (talk) 13:37, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Chemistry --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:23, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

December 2016[edit]

Gravity[edit]

Items involved: Q30006Talk, Q673166Talk Status:    not resolved

all mixed in Q30006 sitelinks: acceleration, field, force... --Infovarius (talk) 15:39, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bell 205 (Q2660305)/Bell 204/205 (Q2428191)[edit]

Items involved: Q2660305Talk, Q2428191Talk Status:    partially resolved

Hello everyone, Utzli, a he-wiki user, wrote here that Q2660305 and Q2428191 were about the same type of a helicopter. If he's right, please merge the items. thanks, Amitayzl (talk) 21:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe another bonnie and clyde issue? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I moved the he-link to the other item and according to the titles it should be correct now. I didn't have a look on the content of the pages. Q.Zanden questions? 00:52, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Искусствоведение (History of art OR Art history?)[edit]

Items involved: Q50641Talk, Q50637Talk Status:    not resolved

Those confusing english terms... The main question: where is the right place for ru-link (if keeping en-links at places). ABBYY Lingvo dictionary says that ru:Искусствоведение=en:"Study of art, art history, art critism". And it consists of studying modern state of art, studying history of this activity and art critics. So I believe the first item (as of now) is the wrong place. And probably it refers also to uk/be/az/hy/ka/ka/lt/tg. So I propose to move these links to the second item. --Infovarius (talk) 13:48, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

labels for hy (armenian) were right as of 13:02, 23 October 2016: արվեստագիտություն for Q50641/искусствоведение and Արվեստի պատմություն for Q50637/История искусства. - Kareyac (talk) 15:45, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please be more specific. Do you mean that hy fits ru? Because this means (in my opinion) that they both should be moved. --Infovarius (talk) 12:25, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Sorry for my knowledge of English. Искусствоведение in Russian means the same as արվեստագիտություն in Armenian - art researching science (text for translation taken from corresponding WPs). История искусства in Russian means the same as in Armenian - the history of art researching science (text for translation taken from corresponding WPs) or IMHO the process of history of that field itself . - Kareyac (talk) 14:41, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fibonacci sequence (Q23835349)/Fibonacci number (Q47577)[edit]

Items involved: Q23835349Talk, Q47577Talk Status:    not resolved

Il existe deux éléments Wikidata pour le même objet : la suite des nombres de Fibonacci : une dizaine de langues utilise Q23835349, et une cinquantaine Q47577; aucune des langues partage les deux. Comme il s'agit du même objet mathématique, une discussion sur la fusion s'est engagée sur fr:Projet:Mathématiques/Le Thé#Suite de fibonacci vs fibonacci numbers?, et l'unanimité n'a pas été atteinte, à un contributeur près. Je demande néanmoins la fusion.

--ManiacParisien (talk) 11:16, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@ManiacParisien:
Sur le plan technique, la fusion est actuellement impossible pour deux raisons : au moins une langue a deux articles et il y a une affirmation qui relie les deux éléments.
On pourrait demander la fusion des articles ukrainien et retirer l'affirmation P527/P361 mais cela me semble une très mauvaise idée sur le plan logique de fusionner un ensemble avec un élément de l'ensemble ; ce serait comme fusionner « suite d'entiers » et « nombre entier » et cela aboutirait à des étrangetés comme « le nombre 21 (21 (Q712477)) est une suite/nombre de Fibonacci » (d'ailleurs, quel nom donner à l'élément si il était fusionné ?).
Une autre solution est de créer un élément chapeau « suite/nombre de Fibonacci » pour y mettre les liens interwikis (et eux uniquement) mais là aussi ce serait assez étrange.
For english speaker : a variation of the infamous Bonnie and Clyde problem...
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:53, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@VIGNERON:
Bonjour, merci pour votre réponse. Vos arguments sont de deux sortes, et on a déjà répondu amplement aux deux sur la page du Thé des mathématiciens, mais je les résume ici :
  • L'ukrainien s'est débrouillé pour avoir deux articles, mais l'un des deux est de fait une redirection de l'autre ! Donc ils sont eux en contradiction avec l'idée de Wikidata, mais ils ont raison sur le fond mathématique.
  • Les langues qui préfèrent la "suite de Fibonacci" ont une page "nombre de Fibonacci" de redirection (comme le français), les langues comme l'anglais qui préfèrent "Fibonacci number" ont une page de redirection "Fibonacci sequence", et même mieux "Fibonacci number sequence", ce qui montre encore une fois qu'il s'agit de la même chose.
  • Dire que « le nombre 21 (21 (Q712477)) est une suite/nombre de Fibonacci » est pousser bien loin, suffit de dire que « le nombre 21 (21 (Q712477)) est une nombre de la suite de Fibonacci », l'argument ne tient pas.
  • Rien à voir avec Bonnie et Clyde; je maintiens qu'il s'agit du même objet mathématique, mais je ne suis pas certain que la personne ou le robot qui un jour a créé ces deux objets ait eu le niveau scientifique approprié pour avoir fait le bon choix; et il est toujours difficile, même sur Wikidata, d'admettre cela.
Bien cordialement, --ManiacParisien (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@ManiacParisien: les sujets sont certes très proches mais ils sont formellement différents. Et en cela on est dans une situation qui est une variante de Bonnie et Clyde (sauf que là c'est plus Bonnie - le nombre - et Bonnie et Clyde - la suite de nombres -). Pour organiser le savoir, Wikidata doit le décomposer et distinguer des sujets que les wikipédias confondent.
Concrètement, prenons l'exemple de 21 (Q712477), comment pourrais-tu indiquer « le nombre 21 (21 (Q712477)) est une nombre de la suite de Fibonacci » ? C'est ce qui est indiqué actuellement mais, sauf erreur, cela me semble impossible si tu fusionnes le concept de nombre et celui de suite. Plus globalement, si tu fusionnes le nombre et la suite, que fais des déclarations, eg. quelle est la nature de l'objet fusionné ?
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 14:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lemuriformes (Q37212)/Lemuroidea (Q1192405)[edit]

Items involved: Q37212Talk, Q1192405Talk Status:    not resolved

English: I think en:Lemur should be linked to de:Lemuren, please. Deutsch: Meines Erachtens sollte bitte en:Lemur mit de:Lemuren verlinkt werden. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Taxonomy has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:48, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@NearEMPTiness: unfortunately(?) English and Deutsh articles regards these animals as different taxons (de:Lemuren=Lemuriformes, so it is linked to en:Lemuriformes), so we can't do anything about it... If you look at other sitelinks you'll see that "lemur"s are distributed nearly half by half at these items. May be it should be checked too. --Infovarius (talk) 14:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@NearEMPTiness: this is the result of a fundamental flaw in how Wikidata handles inter-wiki links, insisting on 1:1 links when the articles are not set up like this. It's only one of many, many such examples. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The English Wikipedia page now has pages for both. I added a dewiki sitelink to a redirect to Q1192405. I feel like this should be able to be resolved? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:35, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

attempted murder (Q81672)/assassination (Q3882219)[edit]

Items involved: Q81672Talk, Q3882219Talk Status:    not resolved

The link for English wikiquote and English wikipedia are to different places, which doesn't make sense. There seems to be duplicates in itWP and frWP and I don't know sufficient to differentiate. Either way the English sites need to point to the same item. -- — billinghurst sDrewth 22:12, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People related to the internet (Q8551672)/Category:Internet celebrities (Q15337267)[edit]

Items involved: Q8551672Talk, Q15337267Talk Status:    not resolved

Both categories hold the same kind of articles about internet personalities/celebrities, interwikis are separated in two groups except for a couple of wikis that hold both items at same time. --Banjo (talk) 09:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Qinghe District (Q1197718)/Qingpu District (Q1197757)/Qingjiangpu District (Q27661960)[edit]

Items involved: Q1197718Talk, Q1197757Talk, Q27661960Talk Status:    in doubt

Actually, per [5], the first and second districts are merged as third name, but on most of Wikipedias there's still separated articles... Perhaps this is the last 2016 IC report. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Any people who is working on it? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:51, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to ask @QZanden:, he is one expert of fixing conflicts. --111.30.228.107 01:32, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226:, I'm not yet working on it, not enough spare time to spend it to Wikidata. And my chinese is not very good (very bad, actually). Q.Zanden questions? 23:23, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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