User talk:Trilotat

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Another cool geology reference[edit]

Do you know about this one? Geologic Unit Type (Q63464453), home page, search page. - PKM (talk) 22:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

@PKM: I have no idea what that is. Honestly, I'm baffled what to do with it. I'm sure there's something I should do with it, but I don't know what. Sorry... confused. Trilotat (talk) 23:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
@PKM: To be clear, I'm interested... but confused. Trilotat (talk) 23:08, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
That would be because I screwed it up. I meant to link to this dataset: International Chronostratigraphic Chart 2017 as searchable multilingual linked open data. Now if I can just figure out what the order of languages is we'll have multilingual labels... - PKM (talk) 03:15, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
And ... that one’s deprecated. This is the current one now International Chronostratigraphic Chart data set (Q63468524). - PKM (talk) 03:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
<headesk>the labels at the top are alphabetical.


I keep dithering about whether to merge geologic unit (Q30914189) and geological unit (Q3694119). What do you think? - PKM (talk) 05:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@PKM: I am not in anyway formally educated in geology beyond the few classes I took at what I think is the world's greatest community college (which I will leave unnamed in order to avoid conflict.) I think they should be merged because I think they are used in WikiData to describe the same thing, though they should be different. Example, my trusty "Dictionary of Geological Terms" describes geological terms (congruent melting point, syncline, etc.) that are used to describe geologic things (rocks, structures, earthquakes, etc.)

I think "geological units" should be chronographic units, stratigraphic units, etc., which describe the things and "geologic units" should be the formations, the things described. Trilotat (talk) 05:40, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, that’s the two sides of the question as I see it too. I think it’s probably impractical to try to distinguish geological and geologic (especially as the formal vocabularies use “geologic”). (We have the same challenge with historical/historic, where I think the fine difference in usage is at least partly US vs. UK. But I digress.) in any case I am not sure the fine distinctions work across all languages. Ah, English, with its plethora of not-quite-synonyms. Great for poetry, not so much for Wikidata.
FWIW, you gave more formal education in geology than I do. And you *care*. - PKM (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

When you remove Puerto Rico country claim - you should at the same time add Puerto Rico in some other claim[edit]

Otherwise, you're trying to make Puerto Rico disappear. Morovis is in Puerto Rico. You made more than 533 of these types of changes.
I'd like to know if and how this change that I'm requesting of your person, can be made.
‎ This -"Removed claim: country (P17): Puerto Rico (Q1183), #quickstatements; #temporary_batch_1564947014098 undothank Tag: QuickStatements [1.5]" X more than 533 times. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 20:28, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

I did, but you might have seen it before the 533 additions were complete (it was two separate actions.) I added it as a territory. As for how I did it, please see Simply, you put a minus sign before the QID of the item. Example -Q2623982,P17,Q1183 and it removes the property Country=Puerto Rico. Trilotat (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm very sorry but I don't see that you've added it, in a two-step process, which I imagine it would be. 1st step to remove P.R. as a country and 2nd to add it somewhere else.
See here: where you remove P.R. from the wikidata item
See here: the current wikidata item without P.R.
Then see here in the article where it lists Canada, Puerto Rico, and the United States in the medical article,
And where have you readded Puerto Rico to the wikidata item? and so now the Wikidata items, across all your changes are incorrectly missing P.R. as one of the places where for example: the "Extension Study to Evaluate the Efficacy and Safety of Elagolix in Premenopausal Women With Heavy Menstrual Bleeding Associated With Uterine Fibroids (English)" - the wikidata item will no longer reflect that Puerto Rico was a location for the study. multiplied more than 533 items that you've updated. Correct me if I'm wrong but my eyes are not seeing it.The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 00:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
My regrets. I might not have been as thorough as I'd planned. I'm running the query, so I hope to resolve it. Thank you for calling me on my incomplete task. Trilotat (talk) 03:09, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I appreciate your work on this. Don't worry. Puerto Rico has a tendency of slipping through the cracks. I'm doing what I can. Thanks again.--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 10:10, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
I wanted to repair the misunderstanding (in the edits) that PR is not a part of the US. I’m glad you prevented me from taking away the PR from the items. Trilotat (talk) 16:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again.--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 02:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@The Eloquent Peasant: de nada. Trilotat (talk) 04:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi regarding your statement "I wanted to repair the misunderstanding (in the edits) that PR is not a part of the US. I’m glad you prevented me from taking away the PR from the items."
I would like to explain that Puerto Rico is not "in" the United States. Look at any historical map of the United States and you will never find Puerto Rico or any other US territory in the maps. Maps of the United States show only 50 states. Wikidata items should reflect the same. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth, a US territory, but again, not in the United States. Places that are located IN Puerto Rico are not by default IN the United States. Also, it is a country, just not a "sovereign state". In Geography, places are located "in" places but Puerto Rico, again, is not in the United States. This is not a disputed land. It's a matter of maps and geography. A place is in a place or it's not. In the case of P.R. it's not. If you have time, please look into it, as it relates to thousands of articles wikidata items.
I didn't suggest it is in the United States; I suggested that it's part of the United States. If this distinction isn't informative or accurate, please direct me to a specific (hopefully on-line) resource. I don't have access to an academic library and my public library is limited. Thanks. Trilotat (talk) 03:54, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Does Wikidata have an item for country and another item for sovereign state? Is there only one wikidata item (so only sovereign states are considered countries)? That would be wrong. Not all countries are sovereign states.
Thank you and have a Happy Thanksgiving, from the US. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 17:55, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

your merge of glycosyltransferase[edit]

Hello, in this merge you combined an enzyme family item (see the Wikipedia article) with a specific enzyme from a parasitic species. Please don't do such things again! I'll restore it. --SCIdude (talk) 08:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@SCIdude: My apologies for the mistake and thanks for the apparent work you did to remedy it. Trilotat (talk) 14:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Import errors for Scientific Article Titles[edit]

Hi I just wanted to give a heads up about some errors I've noticed in older 2018 scientific article imports you made like The GALEXVIMOS-VLT Deep Survey Measurement of the Evolution of the 1500 Å Luminosity Function (Q58470251). The import tool had some trouble with correctly importing certain title formatted characters ie it removing spaces in the article titles. This was invoked by sourcemd_batch_processing on behalf of User:Trilotat (batch 3202) #quickstatements; #temporary_batch_1541976247371. So its worth spot checking imports to identify bugs in the tool. Fixed a few manually, but not sure how many Q's are affected yet. Wolfgang8741 (talk) 13:45, 5 February 2020 (UTC)


Hello! Nice to meet you there. I'm Sympa from Indonesian Wikipedia. I wanna ask you to edit Indonesian description in Wikiquote as i couldn't do it. Can you change it into "koleksi kutipan bebas bagian dari Wikimedia"? Thankful for your help. Regards, Symphonium264 (talk) 13:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

No, @Symphonium264:, I cannot generate an edit for you. If you have edit rights, you can do it. I cannot make edits in another wiki that I've not done research for. Trilotat (talk) 14:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Ah, got it. Thanks for the response. Symphonium264 (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)