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Best regards! --Bill william compton (talk) 13:10, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages and family names[edit]

Please don't ever merge names and disambiguation pages. There are not ontologically the same and should be kept separated. Thank you. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 07:22, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Harmonia Amanda: And if a page is both as it usually is? --Sporti (talk) 07:46, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
You read all the guidelines and rules and ask questions on the [Wikidata:WikiProject_Names]. It will take hours to repair your contributions right now. I can understand merging two items without thinking but when you saw that names and disambiguation pages were linked together using criterion used (P1013) and family name has to use a different item than disambiguation pages (Q27924673) it should have been obvious there was a rule somewhere. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I removed that about 5 times. Sorry it didn't seem logical to me. --Sporti (talk) 07:54, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
You did much more than 5 wrong merges, but I'll clean up, no worries. Still, don't do that again. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 07:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

By the way, you should not merge family names with generic names items (which are about the family name and the given name). In fact, you should never merge when you have the slightest doubt the items are not strictly identical. If you think it should be merged but you have a doubt, ask for the merge instead of merging yourself. Everyone will be thankful, because repairing wrong links after a wrong is pretty tiring. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 08:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Harmonia Amanda: OK, sorry. But why is wrong for example to link en:Berezovsky and sl:Berezovski? --Sporti (talk) 11:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
You are right that en:Berezovsky and sl:Berezovski should be linked. It's actually en:Berezovsky and ru:Березовский that shouldn't have been, seeing that the Russian article talk also about toponyms. Many English articles are wrongly linked. The correct way would have been to move the English sitelink, which I just did, not to merge. I can understand most of what you did, but it wasn't clean. Sometimes you merged family names with disambiguation pages which were already linked to the correct family name (the two family names should have been correctly merged together). Sometimes you merged when the correct way would have been to move some of the sitelinks, etc.--Harmonia Amanda (talk) 13:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Harmonia Amanda:: Hi. So what is the best way to turn for example Q12788945 from Q4167410 to Q101352, is there s way to fix all the descriptions or will bots do it? --Sporti (talk) 14:13, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you can change the P31, then delete all descriptions (using labelLister for example), then use autoEdit to add all the correct descriptions in one edit. No bot will help you but we have gadgets for that. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 14:36, 20 February 2017 (UTC) LabelLister and autoEdit are two gadgets you can activate in your Preferences. You can look at the history of Flisar (Q12788945) to see what I did. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 14:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
@Harmonia Amanda:: already using autoEdit, but it only adds descriptions to empty ones, doesn't change them. Tried LabelLister, but it only allows to edit languages one by one. --Sporti (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
No, you must use the "beta" version of LabelLister (the link is on the window) to edit all languages at once, and then use autoEdit. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 21:29, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
I did try that aswell, but you still have to click and delete all entered languages one by one, there is no delete all descriptions button, you can just save all at once. I see you used dataDrainer, but I guess there is a reason why it is not allowed for everyone. --Sporti (talk) 06:46, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


@Harmonia Amanda:: any objections to merging Q11903503 and Q4112943? --Sporti (talk) 12:00, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Musical instruments[edit]

Can you please revert (all?) your addings instance of (P31) musical instrument (Q34379)? Because classes of musical instruments (i.e. "piano", "violin" and others) are not instances of musical instruments (i.e. Tsar Bell (Q147875)). --Infovarius (talk) 17:02, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the reaction. If you have any questions about properties in future, you can ask me. --Infovarius (talk) 16:30, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

head of government (P6)[edit]

Bevor doing batch edits with PetScan, please read the documentation of the property. head of government (P6) should be used on items about cities or other governmental bodies and the values should be persons. Edits like this one are wrong. --Pasleim (talk) 08:49, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Pasleim:: OK, so which property is for such cases? --Sporti (talk) 09:24, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
You can either use head of government (P6) on the item about the city, e.g. Ljubljana (Q437) head of government (P6) Zoran Janković (Q220521) or you can create a new item "major or Ljubljana" and use it as a value of position held (P39). --Pasleim (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Обьединить[edit]

Q1056691 и Q397141. Там антропонимы. А голландское, французское и галисийское Cesar, где геоназвания, я дал в отдельный элемент--Unikalinho (talk) 06:44, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@Unikalinho:: I don't think you should merge Cesar and César. --Sporti (talk) 07:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
But this is the same -- is the surname. We should merge the disambigs with surnames Cesar/César in the same element--Unikalinho (talk) 17:26, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
If one letter is different, it is a different surname. Like Novakovič and Novaković or Béatrice and Beatrice are different. --Sporti (talk) 18:17, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I think that also this two pairs are the same -- of course, when it's about the name- or surname-disambigs. The different letters are no more than the special feature of the language-alphabet--Unikalinho (talk) 07:05, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Also don't mix disambiguations and names (see #Disambiguation pages and family names). --Sporti (talk) 10:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Es gibt einen Unterschied zwischen Name-Artikel und Namensdisambig-Artikel. Und was ist mit diesem? Hast du etwas dagegen?--Unikalinho (talk) 07:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Q12798875 and mountaineer (Q9149093)[edit]

Hey Sporti, I ask you as a sl-N speaker. Do you see any reason not to merge Q12798875 and mountaineer (Q9149093), based on the Wikipedia sitelinks? Thanks and regards, MisterSynergy (talk) 11:54, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

@MisterSynergy:: in sl there is a distinction between mountain climber or alpinist (reffers to Q36908) and mountaineer (Q3505012). --Sporti (talk) 13:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Can we subclass those items somehow (Q12798875 and mountaineer (Q9149093), as well as mountaineering (Q36908) and recreational mountaineering (Q3505012)), or does this seem to be impossible? I don’t understand any of the sitelinks in recreational mountaineering (Q3505012), which does not even have useful labels (from my point of view). Regards, MisterSynergy (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
@MisterSynergy::Added mountaineer (Q9149093) as subclass of Q12798875 and mountaineering (Q36908) as subclass of recreational mountaineering (Q3505012). Not sure of proper en name, but used recreational mountaineering for now.--Sporti (talk) 14:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Q234878 death revert...[edit]

Hi,

[1] was added through https://tools.wmflabs.org/pltools/recentdeaths/ .

If you revert my adding, please clean up the ruwiki page, or the info will resurface in the tool, and be added by someone else. Thanks. --Hsarrazin (talk) 12:37, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

@Hsarrazin:: I see, but it is hard to edit ru without knowing the language. --Sporti (talk) 13:25, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
I can just tell, it will come back ^^ --Hsarrazin (talk) 13:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Arnošt Brilej (Q12785133)[edit]

Hello Sporti,
could you have a look at Arnošt Brilej (Q12785133) and c:Creator:Arnošt Brilej to see which of the birth locations and death places might be correct or at least sourced? I haven't found any sources for them apart from CONOR which only says he died in "1953". Thanks in advance, --Marsupium (talk) 14:19, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marsupium: Hi. I found this article about him [2], dates and locations here at Wikidata were correct. --Sporti (talk) 06:06, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! --Marsupium (talk) 08:12, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Slovenian VIAF additions[edit]

Hi. I have removed some of the Slovenian VIAF additions as they wer already in use by other WD items, eg. Cerknica (Q15860) for your addition to Cerknica Municipality (Q13107298). VIAF authorities are unique so we need to determine one or the other.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:43, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Preferred rank[edit]

Hey Sporti, please do not remove preferred rank claims from items, such as in this case and some others. Preferred rank is used for the most recent value, which is Slovenia in those cases. —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Editing rate[edit]

You've been editing for quite some time now with 270 edits per minute. Please respect the mw:API:Etiquette by not running multiple instances of tools at the same time. Thanks, Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 11:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Frank Christoph Schnitzler[edit]

Hello Sporti, why gives only one Artcle from him?  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2.247.247.52 (talk • contribs) at 18:42, 4 February 2018 (UTC).

Looks like it was deleted on some pages like [3]. --Sporti (talk) 06:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

I reverted the wrong edit right now in the history of Daniel Goudineau (Q3014107). Your edit was perfectly correct, my hand ripped. you are not the one with the wrong modification on this article. I'm sorry. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 11:44, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

No problem. --Sporti (talk) 11:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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Request[edit]

Hello.

Can you translate en:Template:AzerbaijanPresidents, en:List of heads of state of Azerbaijan, en:Template:Prime Ministers of Azerbaijan, en:Category:Prime ministers of Azerbaijan in Slovenian Wikipedia?

Yours sincerely, Sondrion (talk) 10:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello.
Can you create en:Category:Wars involving Azerbaijan in Slovenian Wikipedia, just like sl:Kategorija:Vojne Armenije? The military histories of Azerbaijan and Armenia are linked.
Yours sincerely, Sondrion (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Slovenian names[edit]

Hello Sporti! I see that you have been adding a lot of Slovenian names, and seeing that you are Slovenian I hope they are correct?Because you seem to just be copying the already existing labels and pasting them in.Are you sure they are correct?Cheers Niko.georgiev (talk) 11:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

@Niko.georgiev:: Hi. Names are generally the same in all languages using Latin script (Q8229). --Sporti (talk) 12:47, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@Sporti: Thank you for the clarification! Niko.georgiev (talk) 06:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Not always, be careful. Especially when translating from Germanic languages to Slavic. --Infovarius (talk) 12:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)