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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Smalyshev (WMF)/Archive 1 on 2015-08-21.

First structured licensing conversation on Commons

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The first conversation about structured copyright and licensing for Structured Data on Commons has been posted, please come by and participate. The discussion will be open through the end of the month (March). Thank you. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
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Structured Data feedback - What gets stored where (Ontology)

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Structured Commons - Design feedback request: Multilingual Captions

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Hello! You are receiving this message because you signed up for the the community focus group for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons.

The Structured Data on Commons team has a new design feedback request up for Multilingual Captions support in the Upload Wizard. Visit the page for more information about the potential designs. Discussion and feedback is welcome there.

On a personal note, you'll see me posting many of these communications going forward for the Structured Data project, as SandraF transitions into working on the GLAM side of things for Structured Data on Commons full time. For the past six months she's been splitting time between the two roles (GLAM and Community Liaison). I'm looking forward to working with you all again. Thank you, happy editing. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

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Welcome to the Structured Commons focus group!

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Hello! Thank you very much for signing up to the community focus group for Structured Commons :-)

How to organize ourselves?

This focus group is new and experimental, and I welcome your tips and thoughts on how we can organize this in the most convenient and productive way. For now, I have posted a few separate topics on the focus group's talk page. Please add your questions there too! If we all add that page to our watchlist, that's probably a good way to stay up to date with current discussions. Steinsplitter has also initiated a brand new IRC channel specifically for Structured Commons: wikimedia-commons-sd (webchat) which we invite you to join. Please let me know if you have other ideas on how to work together.

Current updates

Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)

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Structured Commons focus group update, Nov 21, 2017

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Hello! You are receiving this message because you signed up for the the community focus group for Structured Commons :-)

IRC office hour today, 21 November, 18.00 UTC
  • The IRC office hour about Structured Commons takes place at 18:00 UTC in wikimedia-office webchat. Amanda, Ramsey and I will give updates about the project, and you can ask us questions. The log will be published afterwards.
Tools update

Many important community tools for Commons and Wikidata will benefit from an update to structured data in the future. You can help indicate which tools will need attention:

Warmly, your community liaison SandraF (WMF) (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Structured Commons focus group update, December 11, 2017

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Hello! You are receiving this message because you signed up for the community focus group for Structured Commons :-)

Later this week, a full newsletter will be distributed, but you are the first to receive an update on new requests for feedback.

Three requests for feedback
  1. We received many additions to the spreadsheet that collects important Commons and Wikidata tools. Thank you! Now, you can participate in a survey that helps us understand and prioritize which tools and functionalities are most important for the Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey runs until December 22. Here's some background.
  2. Help the team decide on better names for 'captions' and 'descriptions'. You can provide input until January 3, 2018.
  3. Help collect interesting Commons files, to prepare for the data modelling challenges ahead! Continuous input is welcome there.

Warmly, your community liaison SandraF (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) - 16:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

inconsistent results from SPARQL queries

ArthurPSmith (talkcontribs)

Are there some servers that have gotten out of sync? I'm trying (in various different ways) this:

curl '' -d 'format=json&query=select%20%3Fitem%20%3Fgrid%20WHERE%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2427%20%3Fgrid%20.%20%20%7D' > ~/tmp/tmp

- sometimes I get 33863 results, sometimes 33864, sometimes 33909, seemingly at random... this is as of the past 2 hours or so.

Johnuniq (talkcontribs)
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Merged redirects and deleted items in query results

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Stas

I am recurrently observing merged redirects and deleted items in query results when only normal items should appear, and was told at Wikidata:Project chat#Exclude redirects and deleted items from query service results that you are in charge of the actual database.

Do you have a possibility to exclude a list of items from the database, or reload it completely? What would be the best way to report issues?

Thanks and regards!

Smalyshev (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Please provide the details - which query, which results are wrong, etc. I can update them, but I'd like to know where the issue comes from.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

User:MisterSynergy/sysop/empty items looks for “empty” items; request an update with the provided link, and you’ll see deleted items (red links); highlight redirects (.mw-redirect { background-color: #bbdefb; } in CSS) and you’ll easily identify redirects as well.

Smalyshev (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I'll check that out.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Let me point to another issue as well. I would welcome a solution for phab:T145712 (wrong count for wikibase:statements and wikibase:sitelinks), although I understand that this is not an easy bug. Maybe this observation helps:

no label (Q28878586) shows a sitelink to arwiki in the web frontend, but SELECT ?sitelink { ?sitelink schema:about wd:Q28878586 } in the Query Service doesn’t. This is one of the items with wrong sitelink count (SELECT ?sitelinks { wd:Q28878586 wikibase:sitelinks ?sitelinks }). Some of the neighbored Q-IDs in my worklist from my previous comment have the same issue, also with arwiki sitelink confusion.

Smalyshev (WMF) (talkcontribs)

T145712 would probably take more time. Due to how recent changes API works, it is hard to capture pageprops changes if they are asynchronous, but we are planning to do some work on changing that in coming quarters.

I see the sitelink for wd:Q28878586 though.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Do you also see the sitelink in the query service with the query I provided? It says “0 results in 150 ms” in my case.

Smalyshev (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Yes I see the sitelink. Maybe you're looking at cached result? If not, maybe one of the servers has bad data. I've run an update for this item, so if you keep seeing no sitelink it may be some cache in play.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Strange. In fact it works with another browser that has never seen WDQS before. However, the following items have the same problem (and maybe others as well):

  • Q28878594, Q28879308, Q28882055, Q28882249, Q28914524, Q28892595, Q28888277, Q28884971, Q28878586

Their sitelinks are not shown in the fresh browser, so I don’t think it is a caching issue on the client side. I can also confirm that I have seen this behavior a few days ago with exactly the same bunch of items.

Can I purge those items as well, e.g. by appending ?action=purge to the browser URL?

Smalyshev (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I do see sitelinks on those too. ?action=purge won't help, but if you can look into the HTTP headers in your browser and see there would be x-served-by header, that may help to see why there's an issue. I suspect maybe one of the servers has bad data or something. I can update these IDs manually, but I don't want to do it before I know the source of the issue.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

X-Served-By: "wdqs1003"

I will be offline now, but available again tomorrow. Thanks for all your efforts!

Smalyshev (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I've updated the items, however I have no idea how redirects get on this page. E.g. Q8071942 does not have any sitelinks statement, and I checked that no servers have it, and when I run it on the I do not see it, however it somehow appears in your list. I have no idea why - maybe listeria adds it for some reason?

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Thanks for your efforts. As long as the redirects do not appear in the query service results, I’m perfectly fine with your solution. ListeriaBot sometimes needs a day longer to update values, and even they do not vanish from this list, I can live with it. So from my point of this is resolved :-)