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Welcome to Wikidata, Micru!

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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Micru/Archive 1 on 2018-03-20.

Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix

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Greetings,

The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:

  1. m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.

- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018

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Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Wikimania 2018
Partners and allies
Research

Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:

  1. Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
Development
  • Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 21:07, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Structured Data on Commons IRC Office Hour, Tuesday 26 June

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Greetings,

There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Tuesday, 26 June from 18:00-19:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find more details, as well as date and time conversion, at the IRC Office Hours page on Meta.

Thanks, I look forward to seeing you there if you can make it. -- Keegan (talk) 20:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

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Theredproject (talkcontribs)

Hello Micru. I'm trying to set up P5008 for Art+Feminism. I did one test edit to make sure I was doing this correctly. As you were the one who created the property, I thought I would ask you to check my work. I added a P31 of WikiProject to Art+Feminism and I added a P5008 of Art+Feminism to one wikidata item. I rAn the SPARQL query that I think should show all of the Values used by property P5008 But Art+Feminism doesn't appear there.

Micru (talkcontribs)

Hi! I couldn't run your query, but if I run this one then it shows up. I've also added a constraint item so it doesn't give error. It should be fine.

Theredproject (talkcontribs)

Awesome. Thank you!

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Jura1 (talkcontribs)

I'm ok with it if you want to speedy delete the property and archived the deletion discussion.

It can be re-created once the questions sorted out.

If you want to add new arguments to a controversial discussion, I think it would be good to do that as a participant and not once a property created. I thought we had the sorted out last time.

Not sure if it's worth creating all those stale requests. Many are supported by users who hardly every make use of them. So it adds overhead without any benefit.

Micru (talkcontribs)

As I have told you in the PfD page, we have several properties linking to wikis with data type External identifier.

I don't see a problem with this, but if you do, then you should start a broader discussion about what to do with all these properties.

About the stale requests, it depends, sometimes it is worth creating them, sometimes it is unclear. We already have many properties that are unused, I wonder if we should tag them somehow.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

It seems you created a property independently of what people discussed and agreed on.

Micru (talkcontribs)

I have commented on the property talk page.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)
Micru (talkcontribs)

Well, perhaps I should have elaborated that I have been comparing Instagram tags with Twitter hashtags. While the second seems to be used more widely and it can be sourced, I haven't seen the same with Instagram tags. We already have Instagram username (P2003), so that should be enough for most cases. I also have observed that Instagram tags are generally not curated by the community, so they tend to be used in a very haphazard fashion.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)

So, not a requirement, then. Your role as a property creator is to asses the consensus of the community. Please reopen the proposal.

Micru (talkcontribs)

Andy, there is no consensus for creation of that property.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)

There are only three opposes; all of which are stated on the basis of the data-type. Also, as made clear above, your grounds for closing are bogus. Like I said: "Please reopen the proposal".

Micru (talkcontribs)

It is not worth reopening the discussion of an archived proposal that had a wrong data type, specially since it had been stalled for a long time. If you want you can submit a new proposal with the right data type.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)

It didn't have the "wrong" datatype. If you wish to discuss or dispute the datatype, you can do so on the reopened proposal, as an ordinary participant.

For the third time: Please reopen the proposal.

Micru (talkcontribs)

In my opinion the proposal was rightfully closed, and my recommendation is to submit a new proposal. If you don't agree, you can bring more attention to this topic on the project chat, and we can continue discussing it there.

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Spring 2018

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Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Several Commons community members are working on ways to integrate Wikidata in Wikimedia Commons. While this is not full-fledged structured data yet, this work helps to prepare for future conversion of data, and helps to understand how Wikidata and Commons can work better together.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Events
Partners and allies
  • We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
Research
Development
  • Prototypes will be available for Multilingual Captions soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

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Jura1 (talkcontribs)

Why did you close this discussion? The open questions weren't answered.

Micru (talkcontribs)

I didn't close any discussion, I only created the property based on a general consensus. The open questions can still be answered.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

You created it. Based on the answers, there may or may be no consensus.

Micru (talkcontribs)

Yes, I created it because there is a general consensus.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

It's unclear what it's about, but we can continue the discussion on PfD.

Micru (talkcontribs)

As you wish.

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