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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Micru/Archive 1 on 2018-03-20.

Theredproject (talkcontribs)

Hello Micru. I'm trying to set up P5008 for Art+Feminism. I did one test edit to make sure I was doing this correctly. As you were the one who created the property, I thought I would ask you to check my work. I added a P31 of WikiProject to Art+Feminism and I added a P5008 of Art+Feminism to one wikidata item. I rAn the SPARQL query that I think should show all of the Values used by property P5008 But Art+Feminism doesn't appear there.

Micru (talkcontribs)

Hi! I couldn't run your query, but if I run this one then it shows up. I've also added a constraint item so it doesn't give error. It should be fine.

Theredproject (talkcontribs)

Awesome. Thank you!

Reply to "Implementing P5008 for Art+Feminism"
Jura1 (talkcontribs)

I'm ok with it if you want to speedy delete the property and archived the deletion discussion.

It can be re-created once the questions sorted out.

If you want to add new arguments to a controversial discussion, I think it would be good to do that as a participant and not once a property created. I thought we had the sorted out last time.

Not sure if it's worth creating all those stale requests. Many are supported by users who hardly every make use of them. So it adds overhead without any benefit.

Micru (talkcontribs)

As I have told you in the PfD page, we have several properties linking to wikis with data type External identifier.

I don't see a problem with this, but if you do, then you should start a broader discussion about what to do with all these properties.

About the stale requests, it depends, sometimes it is worth creating them, sometimes it is unclear. We already have many properties that are unused, I wonder if we should tag them somehow.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

It seems you created a property independently of what people discussed and agreed on.

Micru (talkcontribs)

I have commented on the property talk page.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)
Micru (talkcontribs)

Well, perhaps I should have elaborated that I have been comparing Instagram tags with Twitter hashtags. While the second seems to be used more widely and it can be sourced, I haven't seen the same with Instagram tags. We already have Instagram username (P2003), so that should be enough for most cases. I also have observed that Instagram tags are generally not curated by the community, so they tend to be used in a very haphazard fashion.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)

So, not a requirement, then. Your role as a property creator is to asses the consensus of the community. Please reopen the proposal.

Micru (talkcontribs)

Andy, there is no consensus for creation of that property.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)

There are only three opposes; all of which are stated on the basis of the data-type. Also, as made clear above, your grounds for closing are bogus. Like I said: "Please reopen the proposal".

Micru (talkcontribs)

It is not worth reopening the discussion of an archived proposal that had a wrong data type, specially since it had been stalled for a long time. If you want you can submit a new proposal with the right data type.

Pigsonthewing (talkcontribs)

It didn't have the "wrong" datatype. If you wish to discuss or dispute the datatype, you can do so on the reopened proposal, as an ordinary participant.

For the third time: Please reopen the proposal.

Micru (talkcontribs)

In my opinion the proposal was rightfully closed, and my recommendation is to submit a new proposal. If you don't agree, you can bring more attention to this topic on the project chat, and we can continue discussing it there.

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Jura1 (talkcontribs)

Why did you close this discussion? The open questions weren't answered.

Micru (talkcontribs)

I didn't close any discussion, I only created the property based on a general consensus. The open questions can still be answered.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

You created it. Based on the answers, there may or may be no consensus.

Micru (talkcontribs)

Yes, I created it because there is a general consensus.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

It's unclear what it's about, but we can continue the discussion on PfD.

Micru (talkcontribs)

As you wish.

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