User talk:Kaganer

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Welcome to Wikidata, Kaganer!

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Best regards, --Ajraddatz (talk) 23:07, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Переводы[edit]

А подскажи, как и кто помечает страницы для перевода? Чтобы у них появлялся соответствующий интерфейс. ShinePhantom (talk) 18:49, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Некто с правами "Translation administrators". --Kaganer (talk) 00:40, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Теперь могу и я ;) --Kaganer (talk) 20:24, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Welcome/text - Sorbian translations[edit]

Hello Kaganer,

did you get FuzzyBot to change the text of Sorbian translations of Template:Welcome/text, Template:Welcome/text/hsb resp. Template:Welcome/text/dsb? A FuzzyBot shall mark the obsolete translations only and not change the translations. But FuzzyBot replaced in these translations Sorbian text by English text. Regards, --Michawiki (talk) 19:07, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, why it happened. Perhaps we should wait to revised translation "arrived" on his pages. --Kaganer (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Page Wikidata:Introduction - translated text is replaced by English text[edit]

Hello Kaganer, similarly like with the page Template:Welcome/text - see above- the translated messages of Wikidata:Introduction are replaced by English text wihout marking the changed messages by red background color. Also the percentage of 100% is not changed although some untranslated messages exist now. You marked this page for translation as last one bute Beta16 marked this page for translation as well today (before you). Please see to it that FuzzyBot works correctly again! Thanks, --Michawiki (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I seen. Perhaps, this some temporary bug of FuzzyBot (or in the current Extension:Translate installation). I suggest a little wait. --Kaganer (talk) 00:17, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Currently, I suggest re-check message, filtered as "untranslated", and re-save current (or updated, if needed) version of his translation. --Kaganer (talk) 00:23, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

[1]Thank you for fixing this, I made type error because using<translation>--DangSunM (talk) 16:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not only that. See all my changes. No need to manually placing numbered comments - the system will do it automatically. --Kaganer (talk) 16:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Praise[edit]

Hello Kaganer, you are a bright spot in this whole disaster around the translation tool. You transferred the translated strings of Help:Contents back to the translation tool. So I needed to translate the new messages only. Therefore you get a lavish praise from me. I hope you will Help:FAQ as well ;-). Thank you very much. Regards, --Michawiki (talk) 23:33, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

;) This my responsible, if I turn on the translation (as I understand it). --Kaganer (talk) 09:52, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for transferring the translated versions of Help:Dagiti linaon.--Lam-ang (talk) 17:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem ;) Welcome to translate another pages there, in the Meta-wiki and mediaWiki.org. --Kaganer (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tvar[edit]

Hi, because you set <tvar> here: [2] it is not possible to translate the url. I mean link Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions#Requests_for_other_rights. Because on RFP page, there is translated headers, so #Requests_for_other_rights don't work if headers are translated. --Stryn (talk) 10:59, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed (added anchors into Wikidata:Requests for permissions; link converted). --Kaganer (talk) 12:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Translation of redirect ambiguation[edit]

Hi! There is no much point to translate this at Wikidata:Property proposal:

WD:PP redirects here. For the protection policy, please see Page protection policy (shortcut WD:PPP

as WD:PP only redirects to the English version of the page. Best regards, Byrial (talk) 21:00, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, WD:PP redirects to base page of multilingual page ;) I think, there is no reasons to create localized shortcuts. Therefore this link is to be remain constant.--Kaganer (talk) 07:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but my point was that the text "WD:PP redirects here" is not true for the translated pages, as it only redirects to the English page. So the text could be removed from the translated pages, as you cannot land on them by mistaken use of the shortcut. (But it would be nice if a shortcut could automatically redirect to the right language version of the page, but that is not possible to my knowledge.) Byrial (talk) 08:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This was not my decision to include this string into translation process. Feel free to exclude his from there. --Kaganer (talk) 09:58, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Userspace subpages[edit]

Oh thank god you wrote me. I was testing and I forgot to move it to template namespace. Cheers. — ΛΧΣ21 14:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talk with you[edit]

Hello. Thanks for the greeting, could I ask you some questions by Skype or Jabber? If yes, please send me your contact data by mail. --Синкретик (talk) 10:16, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See meta:User:Kaganer#Contacts. --Kaganer (talk) 10:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've requested authorization on Skype. --Синкретик (talk) 10:28, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Я обалдел[edit]

Почему, думаю, я вдруг идиш вижу? :)

А вообще спасибо огромное за помощь везде! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 22:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Это, видимо, подсказка криво сработала. А я не распознал. --Kaganer (talk) 15:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

В рувики: publish = записать[edit]

Доброго времени суток. Сделайте, пожалуйста, как в рувики: кнопка publish переводится записать (дословно: Publish_changes переводится Записать_страницу), а не опубликовать. --VladXe (talk) 21:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Или как раньше было — сохранить. Викиданные итак ругают за индивидуальный интерфейс, а если ещё и кнопки будут по-другому переведены, то вообще репутация станет — "шайтан-машина, ну их нафиг, эти Викиданные". --VladXe (talk) 21:47, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@VladXe: Я вообще не понял, что вдруг они выделили это в новое сообщение. Долго не думал, признаться, но меня уже поправили. Теперь ещё нужно везде в документации проверить, и где не подстановкой делается, поменять. --Kaganer (talk) 23:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Обсуждение здесь. Таки не всё — сам процесс Publishing не перевели (извините, что запрос в двух местах — быстрее сделают). --VladXe (talk) 04:39, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@VladXe: Всё нормально. Просто проблемы и вопросы Викиданных лучше бы как минимум дублировать на форуме Викиданных (пусть и чахленьком). 'Publishing' тоже уже поправили, скоро приедет. --Kaganer (talk) 09:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why this edit. I assume <noinclude> should be equivalent. You most likely have a good reason for it, but I want to understand, so I do not do "fixes" like that. --Jarekt (talk) 17:45, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jarekt: These for different purposes. "noinclude" - to not include categories when using a template (this is common for templates). "#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Welcome/text|" - to not include in the category pages with translations (as is customary here to do). I myself do not like this local approach to categories, but I follow it. --Kaganer (talk) 22:59, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Связывание категорий Викиновостей[edit]

Паша, ну ты чего, вот так должно быть: Wikidata:Wikinews/Development. --sasha (krassotkin) 12:48, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Krassotkin: Случайно. --Kaganer (talk) 13:01, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

не так -> так. --sasha (krassotkin) 07:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Krassotkin: Ну не знаю. Я считаю всё это "мета-категориями", для которых привязка к категории приоритетней (больше интервик). --Kaganer (talk) 15:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Вот это метакатегория, а вот это нормальная контентная категория. По крайней мере в известных мне проектах это так называется. А что это за логика про больше интервик? Что-то не соображу. Как по мне, связывать с категориями ВП вообще не имеет никакого смысла: в Википедиях категории - это бесполезный неиспользуемый и непосещаемый рудимент. Только в Викиновостях и на Викискладе категории имеют значения. --sasha (krassotkin) 17:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merging[edit]

Hallo Kaganer,
When you (want to) merge items, you may want to use the merge.js gadget from help page about merging. It helps with merging and removes the need to file a request on Wikidata:Requests for deletions.
With regards,- сyсn - (talkcontribslogs) 13:03, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Udm ?[edit]

Hello Kaganer,
Do you read the Udmurt? I can't seem to know if the edits of Kotwys are correct, especially the labels, descriptions and aliases. Best regards. —Eihel (talk) 12:57, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Eihel, This is look as correct Udmurt phrases. His userpage in the Udmurt Wikipedia (with the BabelBox) - w:udm:User:Kotwys. Kaganer (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Главная страница на удмуртском[edit]

Доброго времени суток! Могу Вас попросить поставить MediaWiki:Mainpage/udm на Wikidata:Main Page (или есть какая-то другая хорошая практика)? Сейчас оно указывает в никуда :( Спасибо! Kotwys (talk) 13:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kotwys - увы, я тут не админ и не редактор интерфейса. Поддержал запрос на MediaWiki talk:Mainpage/udm. Kaganer (talk) 13:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion all[edit]

Not win 113.211.138.208 02:54, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Привет, Павел! Приглашаю Вас в проект Викиданных, посвящённый России. Как одного из старейших участников русской Википедии (вы там с сентября 2004 года), будем рады Вас видеть в развитии тематики, посвящённой нашей стране - создание свойств из источников на русском языке и языках народов России, дополнительных лексем, элементов зданий и организаций. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:51, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment[edit]

Dear Kaganer,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits.

Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in early April 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes. If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link

I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 22:21, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]