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Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix

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Greetings,

The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:

  1. m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.

- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018

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Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Wikimania 2018
Partners and allies
Research

Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:

  1. Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
Development
  • Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 21:07, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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José - differentiating between Spanish and Portuguese

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Moebeus (talkcontribs)

Hi there! You told me I could ask questions, so here goes ;-) In the description of José Q2190619 it says: (male given name (use Q29043257 for Spanish and Q29043256 for Portuguese). This gets a bit messed up when compound names like Francisco José Q47484032 has both Portuguese and Spanish set as languages, but uses the Portuguese José (Q29043256 ). What is the thinking here? And doesn't mixing them cause problems with properties like Soundex and Caverphone? What about the etymology?

For a clearer example, there is the last name Falla Q20519159. This is a family name in both Spain and Norway, but they are only *spelled* the same way - they don't share pronunciation, etymology or much anything else. Wouldn't names like these be better kept as separate entities?

Harmonia Amanda (talkcontribs)

I don't understand at all the thinking there. The majority of the Names project agree that all three "José" should be merged together, in line with all the other names but a contributor is really intent in keeping them separated, even though it doesn't really make sense. I only use the generic "José" and know of no one using the specialized ones.

Soundex and Caverphone are based on writing, deducing a pronunciation as it would be said in English. It doesn't indicate the real pronunciation.

The idea of the project is that in most cases we can't know if someone use the name "Falla" as the Norwegian or Spanish name (and for many names you'll also have Spanish immigrants to Norway, or the reverse, or cases like these muddling the waters). Everything depend on context and context is something we can't really have for all entries in our database. We can know how it's written and we use that. Everything more specific go to the person/family item.

For etymology, we can use based on (P144), and we can precise with applies to part (P518) for the language. We precise the same way IPA transcription (P898) with qualifiers.

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Horcrux (talkcontribs)

Hello! Please, when you remove the statement "instance of (P31) Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)", could you fix better the item?
For example, here it remained to fix the descriptions and move one of the sitelinks to the relative DAB item.

I've been observing your behaviour for a long time and I noticed that you often leave a lot of backlog behind you.

Thanks,

Harmonia Amanda (talkcontribs)

I usually verify these things, but this time there was a wrong merge a few days before. I didn't spot the wrong merge because I was working on wrong disambiguation pages and it looked like all the others I fixed that day while it was a totally different case. (And the merge should have been undone instead of the wrong P31 deleted, which would have also fixed the descriptions).

Since I quite literally spend more than half my time here fixing wrong descriptions, I really don't think I leave "a lot of backlog". I can decide not to fix some items manually when I know that a few days later I'll use a script, which I do regularly for names, but more than half my work is actually in fixing these issues.

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Милан Јелисавчић (talkcontribs)
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Ilham151096 (talkcontribs)

Nama asli (id) = real name (en), while family name (en) = marga, nama keluarga, or fam (id).

Harmonia Amanda (talkcontribs)

Thank you for the information!

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Pmt (talkcontribs)

Hello! I undid your additon on Ådel (Q50991447) as this (Norwegian ?) feminime firstname is not the same as the familyname Adel (Q27042626). Ådel starts With the capital scandinavian letter Å (Q9989) and not A (Q9659). The rigth firstname then must be Adel (Q9659) With Adel (Q27042626) Breg.

Harmonia Amanda (talkcontribs)
Pmt (talkcontribs)

Sorry for all my inbetween editions btw ;)

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Magnus Manske (talkcontribs)
Harmonia Amanda (talkcontribs)

Hi! 1132 is the new export of the database (360 is more than a year old). But 360 has IDs that are not in 1132, so right now I'm verifying that the extractor did not miss any IDs; that the missing IDs are all entries that were deleted this year. If not, I'll have to understand where the extractor failed. So right now I would like to keep both catalogs, until we are sure that the new one is complete. And then of course, deactivate the old one.

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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Spring 2018

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Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Several Commons community members are working on ways to integrate Wikidata in Wikimedia Commons. While this is not full-fledged structured data yet, this work helps to prepare for future conversion of data, and helps to understand how Wikidata and Commons can work better together.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Events
Partners and allies
  • We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
Research
Development
  • Prototypes will be available for Multilingual Captions soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

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Artix Kreiger (talkcontribs)

For overuse of deletions, you have made admin policy useful. As such, your access to administrator tools have been suspended for the 1st of April.

Best regards