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Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix

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Greetings,

The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:

  1. m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.

- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018

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Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Wikimania 2018
Partners and allies
Research

Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:

  1. Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
Development
  • Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

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Kun je haar nog even toevoegen aan het lijstje van zaterdag? Artikel stond af in het kladblok van de deelnemer en ik heb het zojuist verplaatst.

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Gedaan voor alle 3

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Robotje (talkcontribs)

Hoi GerardM, het viel me op dat je bij tenminste twee gevallen een Surinaams politicus als Belg aangemerkt hebt op Wikidata ([https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15875601&diff=143395969&oldid=113556206] [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2784271&diff=143411004&oldid=3878124]). Een ervan had ik al eerder gezien en dat leek me gewoon een foutje dat ik al hersteld heb. Dat speelde vier jaar geleden maar ik kwam er net pas achter dat het nog een keer fout gegaan is en mogelijk zijn er toen nog veel meer fouten gemaakt bij de massale import van gegevens in Wikidata (meer dan 10 edits per minuut). Kun je nog achterhalen wat er fout ging en als dat veel meer personen betreft dat ook met een bot corrigeren? - Robotje (talk) 07:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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German Cross vs German Cross in Gold

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Dictionary data discussions today, thinking of you

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Sj (talkcontribs)

I ran into psychoslave today and we talked about data models for Lexeme: and Ωwiki and more. In case your ears were burning, that's why... I hope you are well.

GerardM (talkcontribs)

I am well. I did not engage in the discussion because Wikidata labels should have properties relevant to time and dictionary use. As a consequence of a lack of functionality OmegaWiki will remain superior in the functional sense. There is no helping that. I do not want to be the person spoiling the fun.. but there you have it.

For your information a librarian, a former NYC official has been harassed to the extend that she will no longer contribute. I spoke up for her and was banned for a week. This is one example why we are losing our battle to do good.

Thanks,

Gerard

Sj (talkcontribs)

H'm! I'm not sure I follow re: time and dictionary use, but I would llke to. Can you give an example?

I know of the conflicts b/t brilllyle and other archivists, alas. It's not [wiki vs. librarian] it is [one rough-spoken person vs. many others.]. I don't know how to make more people more kind to one another more of the time, but in this case the animosity and stress come from all directions... That is not so much 'harassment' as it is 'infighting'.

Warm regards.

GerardM (talkcontribs)

Hoi,

As to Erika.. I checked the definition on harassment on English Wikipedia. It fits perfectly. Erika is not demure, however I know her well, have worked with her on several projects and I have OBSERVED how she has been harassed, how she was made impossible as it was made known that projects would be boycotted when she is involved. When you look at the latest altercation that got me banned because I spoke up for her, it started with someone who was banned for edit warring in that week, starting with accusations of bad faith. It followed with someone new to Wikidata asking for her ban. That is not infighting, that is harassment pure and simple. I do not care who does it, when that starts to make a difference it gets even worse.

As to OmegaWiki, all labels for items in Wikidata have their own attributes. By design Wikidata does not know how to handle them. Dictionary attributes belong to each label. Given that there is plenty of other work that can be done, I do not interfere in this except for noting that the current design is broken.

Sj (talkcontribs)

I see! Can't attributes be captured as property "has dictionary attribute"?

GerardM (talkcontribs)

Without exception, every label has its own and different dictionary attributes. That in itself makes it a bad decision. In addition to this it complicates querying. Also "has dictionary attribute" itself should be on the label level. A level that is exactly we are discussing here.

Sj (talkcontribs)

I really want to understand this with an example. Is there a current discussion about this on OmegaWiki somewhere? Where the maps to WD entities falls short, what a better design might look like

Sj (talkcontribs)

Denny would like to understand the gap here as well (we chatted about this on Twitter). If you or someone else from OmegaWiki could help me understand, I will do my best to help close the gap.

GerardM (talkcontribs)

I no longer frequent OmegaWiki. THat does not matter in the sense that the issues WD cannot cope with does not cope with have gone away. I do not meddle with the dictionary part. It is a backwater by design.

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Wikidata:Requests for comment/Sort identifier statements on items that are instances of human

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