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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Gamaliel/Archive 1 on 2020-02-25.

Animalparty (talkcontribs)
Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

Thanks, it's a quirk of the new Q5 item creation tool, I'll watch out for that from now on.

Quesotiotyo (talkcontribs)

Please do try to keep this in mind when creating new items. Thank you!

Animalparty (talkcontribs)

Where is the Q5 item creation tool? Any method of more quickly creating items is urgently needed in Wikidata.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)
Jura1 (talkcontribs)

nice tool. The P734/P735 part could need some tweaks.

Jan Smith tries to link Jan (Q69523536) (I was wondering which one it uses among Jan (Q12173670) and Jan (Q18220903))).

Oddly, what it does there isn't very transparent to the user. Personal names with more than two parts are tricky and assuming everything but the last part is a given name is frequently wrong. If the input is in Latin script, items being used should probably use that too. I started adding Wikidata usage instructions (P2559) to items that are generally problematic. Maybe these should be skipped by default.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Jura1 (talkcontribs)
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Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talkcontribs)
Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I'm running Quickstatements to remove anything with that date.

Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talkcontribs)

Thanks!

Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Jura1 (talkcontribs)

Are you sure all are resolved? Do you have a query I can use to check?

The pairs on that page just happened to be there because you added identical dates to two items.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I do not know how to run a query to check every item that has the date of November 30.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I've found the Open Refine file used to create this edit batch and used it to hand check every item with a date of birth or death date of November 30.

Reply to "30 November 2 CE"

A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms

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Emu (talkcontribs)

Hi, thank you for adding this reference work to Wikidata! It’s a great addition! Just wanted to let you know that I added the last page of the article, the names used in the articles and also information on authorship, see Talk:Q108665654. I’ve added several items, but many authors of articles in this work still don’t have an item, so that may be an idea for a little follow-up project thus improving our coverage of women’s studies scholars.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

What a great idea adding the individual authors, as they are likely notable scholars in their own right. I'll see if I can create items for some of the missing ones.

Reply to "A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms"
Jura1 (talkcontribs)

Hi Gamaliel.

Somehow your open refine batch is running wild: has no years.

BTW, please add "()" to years. Sample: "(1865-1960)" instead of "1865-1960"

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I'm aware of the problem. I set it up to add the dates pulled from the items, but I did not realize so many of these items would be lacking basic data! When the batch is over I plan on going back and rerunning it to remove the ones that just say "-".

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

A question: what difference does the parenthesis make?

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

none, but it's consistent with the format generally used.

I think it works better when there is some prepended text.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

Sure, no reason I can't do that.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

can you stop it instead and do new run afterwards?

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I won't be able to stop it for about 20 minutes for real life reasons, but sure, I can stop it.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

If you ask on admin noticeboard, they could stop it for you.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I'm out for a walk and on my phone, I'll be back to the desktop quicker than I can post the request.

Hjart (talkcontribs)

I think many of us use the parenthesis to tell whether the dates indicate the persons lifespan or the years he had some job.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

This query currently finds ca. 5000 such descriptions.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

It's 4995 exactly. I have the full set in OpenRefine. Right now I'm trying to pull data from Wikitree but their API is slow so it will take a while.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

BTW, maybe this lead to empty data.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I'm afraid I don't see the relevance.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

For many, Wikidata still have the info in the reference section

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

Maybe I can grab it from there instead of using the Wikidata API. Brilliant! Thank you.

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Kpjas (talkcontribs)
Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

Very strange, no idea how that happened. I fixed it, thank you.

Reply to "I.I Bekker"
GZWDer (talkcontribs)

Does the source described this person as "black"?

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)
GZWDer (talkcontribs)

I have found , which said the opposite.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

You are welcome to add the disputed qualifier.

Reply to "Deborah Sampson (Q3020894)"
GZWDer (talkcontribs)

Where does Chinese name of this person come from? (It is wrong.)

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)
GZWDer (talkcontribs)
  • China Vitae is a very bad source for Chinese names (too many errors).
  • The Chinese name you added is not mentioned in any of source you listed.
Gamaliel (talkcontribs)
Reply to "(Q107095865)"
Nashona (talkcontribs)

Hi, I'm curious as to why you reverted my edit on Elizabeth D.A. Cohen -- she is Jewish and is correctly identified. Thanks.

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

Very strange, I don't remember making this edit at all! Perhaps I misclicked on something on my watchlist? Whatever happened, I restored your edit.

Nashona (talkcontribs)

Thank you! I was worried I was missing something obvious.

Reply to "Elizabeth D.A. Cohen"
Kolja21 (talkcontribs)
Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I may recollect some details incorrectly, as this project was two years ago. These items were not matched by name. At the time I was working with a NARA employee (as a volunteer) to link as many of their authority records as possible with the plan to further develop Wikidata items once that was done. This may have changed, but at the time each NARA authority record was linked to a specific LC authority record. They are not visible on the page, but they were in the HTML so I could harvest them with OpenRefine. We discovered that some of the NARA authority records linked to (in our opinion) the wrong person, but we did not want to override their judgement and kept the links in Wikidata, with the hopes that we could get someone at NARA to clean up their authority records in the future. Unfortunately my contact no longer works for NARA and this project has ceased, so I have no objection if you edit any of these items any way you see fit.

Reply to "Same name = same person?"
Lotje (talkcontribs)

Hi Gamaliel, coming across this, I was wondering who this is, because of File:Andamana; the first queen of Canary (IA andamanafirstque00whit).pdf stating: ...In 1844 the writer, Commodore William B. Whiting, U. S. Navy, then a lieutenant, visited the island of Gran Canaria and was much interested in the legends of Andamana, originally a village maiden and after- wards Queen of Canary,... The dates of birth and death do not match, but nevertheless. Thank you for your time. ~~~~

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)

I think we have two different William Bradford Whitings. It's pretty common thing to happen. I'll create an item for the other one today so we can distinguish them. ~~~~

Gamaliel (talkcontribs)