User talk:Chris.urs-o

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Hi Chris! I saw your comment at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#Color and think your comment for color as a string (e.g. #00FF00) is under the other request which is color as an item (color = red, where red needs to be a wiki-article or something with a Q-number). I was thinking that mineral and streak colors should probably get an item-color where we use and create items like red, dark-red, brownish-red, light-red (multilingual item of course). The qualifiers would serve as explanations for the color? What do you think? --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:32, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, we have quartz, calcite, fluorite and so on, that can have 'almost all colors', 'almost all colors' would be the property color. Or at least the main color range (two colors). The colors series would be: almost all colors → white → grey → yellow → green → cyan → blue → magenta → red → brown → black.
File:Farbkreis Itten 1961.png - Color circle (Johannes Itten, 1961), subtractive color mixing
File:Colour wheel (small).JPG - Color wheel
A color as wiki-article only is a too narrow scope.
I don't know if I understood your comment well enough. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 17:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm sure that I'm not describing it very well. Maybe we should just leave the colors away for now and find an easier property to fill in. We are anyway in no rush as most of the things are still being developed. The most astonishing fact is probably that there is still no property to add a birthday for a person :) --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

IMA Number[edit]

IMA Number is now available. Filling in the numbers can probably be done by a bot Wikidata:Bot requests. ;) --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:16, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice. How about using the same format as IMA Master List and IMA1975-013 instead of 1975-013. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 13:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
We could do that. I can add the prefix to the documentation. --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The IMA Master List has the special procedures (s.p.) through IMA reports. There are the IMA decisions too, but this should be a part of IMA status. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 00:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Lower case[edit]

Hey. Just so you are aware, on Wikidata we only capitalise the first letter of English labels if they are a pronoun. Please see Help:Label for details. Cheers! Delsion23 (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok :p --Chris.urs-o (talk) 18:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


Do you have time to review Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#interleaves_with_.2F_verzahnt_mit_.2F_FRENCH_.2F_RUSSIAN_.2F_OTHERS? Thank you ;) --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:19, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for all the reviews. By the way: Did you see this news piece: --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:38, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Thx. I'm not an expert on stratigraphy --Chris.urs-o (talk) 16:49, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Crystal system[edit]

Can you take a look at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#Crystal_system. --Tobias1984 (talk) 20:47, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

And we also need some votes for or against: Crystal habit, Twinning, Fracture, Cleavage:(link) --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:13, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I added point and space group to the proposals. We're making nice progress on the mapping of infobox :). Thank you for putting so much work into the tag-tree.--Tobias1984 (talk) 07:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Thx ;) You really, really learned it only; when you are able to express it ;) Do not propose more properties now. We have work for the next decade right now ;) And I'll have a look at your properties, I have a flu right now ;) --Chris.urs-o (talk) 08:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Hope you feel better soon. I added point and space group, because the chemistry task force added crystal system. I think they have to be proposed together. We do have work for the next decade :). It is good that we can request a bot to fill in the information. --Tobias1984 (talk) 09:19, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


Hi, can you say me how you format subscript when typing in the interface ? Thanks Snipre (talk) 13:42, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Unicode (Q3513021) – [αβγδφωλμπ][-₀₁₂₃₄₅₆₇₈₉][⁰¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹][⁺⁻]·☐
I just copy and paste. Somebody else did it, I just followed him. Regards --Chris.urs-o (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Grant proposal about Wikidata[edit]

Hello, I am preparing a grant proposal with the title "m:Grants:IEG/Understanding Wikidata". I would be very grateful if you could have a look and comment. Ziko (talk) 18:41, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Space groups[edit]

I forgot to send you this very useful link. Wolfram Alpha also knows the space groups (but not any minerals that have that space group). E.g. --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok thx --Chris.urs-o (talk) 16:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

use of "subclass of" (P279)[edit]

Hello! I was curious if you could fill me in on your use of the "subclass of" property. My understanding is that "A is a subclass of B" if every instance of A is an instance of B. So it makes sense, for instance, that "Aquamarine" should be a subclass of "beryl". However, you use this property in ways that do not agree with this understanding. For example:

  • Handbook of Mineralogy (Q15222041) ‎ (‎Created claim: subclass of (P279): Mineralogical Society of America (Q1936599))
  • rruff (Q15222042) ‎ (‎Created claim: subclass of (P279): University of Arizona (Q503419))
  • rruff (Q15222042) ‎ (‎Created claim: subclass of (P279): International Mineralogical Association (Q268771))
  • rruff (Q15222042) ‎ (‎Created claim: subclass of (P279): Category:Online databases (Q6700407))

I might go through and change some of these. Please let me know if you think I misunderstand the meaning of P279, or your intended use. Thanks! --Kine (talk) 12:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Merging items[edit]

Hallo Chris.urs-o,

For merging items, you may want to use the merge.js gadget from help page about merging. It has an option "Request deletion for extra items on RfD" to automatically place a request to delete the empytied page. This way of nominating makes it a lot easier for the admins to process the requests.

With regards, - User:CycnUser:CycnUser:CycnUser:Cycn - (Cycn/talk) 10:25, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try it. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 16:48, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


Just you you are aware, an item you created is being discussed at project chat. Cheers. Delsion23 (talk) 19:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Q3843913 (Malhmoodit)[edit]

Hallo Chris, beim o.g. Mineral gibt es ein Problem. Es hat eigentlich zwei IMA-Nr., da es zunächst unter falsch geschriebenem Namen mit der IMA-Nr. 1992-001 anerkannt wurde und der Name später unter der IMA 2002-D korrigiert wurde. Wie lässt sich das im Datensatz lösen? Gruß -- Ra'ike (talk) 19:56, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Hoi Ra'ike. Aktuell bleibt nur die letzte IMA-Nummer. Wir benützen "start time", "end time". Gruss --Chris.urs-o (talk) 04:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Keep track of all minerals[edit]

Hi, I have difficulties to keep track of all minerals: I used to get list from but it doesn't works because for example högbomite supergroup (Q3977910) or alunite supergroup (Q3977905) are not a subclass of mineral (Q7946). In my humble opinion a mineral group is an instance of mineral group (Q1936581), not a subclass of it. --Sbisolo (talk) 10:43, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok, let it be instance of mineral group. But the supergroups are only a very small group (12 supergroups), 13 if you count aluminofluorides. Regards --Chris.urs-o (talk) 13:50, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
There are only 12 supergroups but they contains probably 200-300 minerals (amphiboles are more than 100). I did a first check against last IMA Master list and I found more then 800 mineral missing from wikidata. After some check I discovered that many of them were part of supergroups. --Sbisolo (talk) 14:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Re-reading my message, probably was not so clear. I try to explain my idea with an example: alunite supergroup (Q3977905) should be a subclass of mineral (Q7946) and an instance of mineral supergroups (Q3977918); beudantite mineral group (Q3777629) should be a subclass of alunite supergroup (Q3977905) and an instance of mineral group (Q1936581). It makes sense? --Sbisolo (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Express yourself with more care, please (mineral supergroups (Q3977918) 'has part' of 'mineral', it is enough). Mineral supergroups have mineral groups which are an instance of 'mineral groups'. We have hundred new minerals every year. We should only care of the 3,500 more important minerals (gemstone mineral, rock-forming mineral, textbook mineral, mineral of economic importance, specimen for mineral collections and class, subclass, division, supergroup, group, subgroup and series members). 5,000 valid minerals, their varieties and groups (broad sense) are too many items for us two. Please, don't use disambiguation pages for mineral series; please, follow,, and --Chris.urs-o (talk) 04:30, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Note (IMA status): Sbisolobot updated grandfathered and approved minerals. Some valid minerals with status Q, Rd and Rn are missing. I'm going to fix it. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 04:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Questionable minerals were reviewed. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 06:54, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Sbisolobot didn't update minerals with "A ?" status. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 05:39, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Minerals with status "A ?" were reviewed. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 13:57, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


type locality (P2695) is ready. --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:18, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

There is a discussion about the usage going on here: Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard#Conflict_resolution_p2695. I am involved in the conflict, so I am hoping others can settle the dispute. --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:55, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

New minerals from august and september 2016[edit]

Hi, I've started creating articles in catalan wikipedia about new minerals approved in august and september 2016 ( but there aren't any register in wikidata yet. I've start creating quijarroite but I think that you may create all of them with a bot or something similar. Isn't it? Thanks in advance. --Yuanga (talk) 22:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

No. I do it manually (Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/IMA number references#Mineralogical Magazine) ;) --Chris.urs-o (talk) 03:46, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
P.S.: minerals with a full description and a picture available are more interesting. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 14:55, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Unused property[edit]

This is a kind reminder that the following property was created more than six months ago: pseudo crystal habit (P2156). As of today, this property is used on less than five items. As the proposer of this property you probably want to change the unfortunate situation by adding a few statements to items. --Pasleim (talk) 19:10, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not know that this property was approved. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 02:41, 18 January 2017 (UTC)