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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Bovlb/Archive 1 on 2019-03-11.

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SlimShady0510 (talkcontribs)

Hi, I can see you have annotated a lot of entities with WordNet ids, can you please elaborate on how you derived the ID mapping from WordNet to Wikidata?

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

There was a third-party project, developing software that used both WordNet and Wikidata. As part of that project, a mapping was generated. This project is now defunct, and I was asked to assist in contributing the mapping back to the community. I was not directly involved in the project, and I can’t say much more because it isn’t my story to tell.

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24.200.102.214 (talkcontribs)

Why you remove my wikidata artist page

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

I’m afraid you’ll need to be a little more specific.

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Pinda Chinees (talkcontribs)

Dear Bovlb,

the Q115209801 fronde des princes is together with the fronde parlementaire one of the two phases of the Fronde (Q656186). I don't know about your whereabouts and the focus of the school system, but this is an important historical event (see Google Books).

I sincerely ask you to restore the item. Thanks in advance.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

I have undeleted the item. Please add claims soon or it is likely to be deleted again.

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Eihel (talkcontribs)
Eihel (talkcontribs)
Abdulghonniy (talkcontribs)

block me! Why?

Eihel (talkcontribs)
Bovlb (talkcontribs)

I wanted to given them a chance to respond, but they are now blocked by BrokenSegue.

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Trade (talkcontribs)

Is there any chance you could discuss with the other admins to change the protection-level of the item to semi-protected? I think it's a huge burden to prevent long-time editors from adding identifiers and Wiki links to this person by virtue of them not being administrator.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

That's a good question. Apparently it was fully-protected two years ago for "edit warring". Normally full protection for edit warring is more like a week or two, but in this case the item already had indefinite semi-protection. The software won't let us layer a temporary full protection on top of a longer semi-protection, so I suspect the only reason this full protection was indefinite was to prevent the item reverting to no protection. CC @Ayack

Trade (talkcontribs)

Could you deal with my edit request at the talk page while we wait?

Ayack (talkcontribs)

I've changed the protection level to semi-protected. Let's hope it will be sufficient.

Reply to "Muhammad (Q9458)"

please restore this public figure.

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201.50.112.42 (talkcontribs)

I noticed that profile Q114866843 has been deleted, it is still being fed. I inform you that this person is public and notable in his works according to sources referring to him.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)
201.50.112.42 (talkcontribs)

Dear Bovlb, the other times that were excluded were due to lack of information and reliable sources that were not added, unlike this one that was excluded. I kindly ask you to evaluate the possibility of returning the page.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

While I agree that the latest incarnation does have more identifiers, it still does not have strong sources. Regardless, notability decisions are made about entities, not their specific representation. If you want to question that decision, you need to appeal to the original deleting admin, or to the community. We do not allow contributors to keep recreating the same entity until it sticks.

2804:D45:C278:D00:74FF:7AA5:B0C4:4A0B (talkcontribs)

hello, who would be the admin that deletes so I can make an appeal?

Bovlb (talkcontribs)
Wd-Ryan (talkcontribs)

Hello, your item for Camila Samara was linked to 4 Wikipedia editions (es twice, simple, mad), all of which were deleted from those projects within the coming days after creation. If you can sort it out on those wikis, the item can be reinstated for having a valid sitelink. Otherwise, it is clearly cross-wiki spam which is not what the Wikimedia projects are about.

2804:D45:C278:D00:74FF:7AA5:B0C4:4A0B (talkcontribs)

Hi @Wd-Ryan, these pages were not approved for lack of sufficient information, contrary to what we have today. Wouldn't it be possible to just keep the project on wikidata? Project like wikipedia I won't try to complete them anymore, just wikidata would be enough to maintain an information base for the community of camila samara de souza.

2804:D45:C278:D00:74FF:7AA5:B0C4:4A0B (talkcontribs)

@Wd-Ryan Completing more information, when wikidata Q114866843 was created you may still be able to see it in the histories, but it had been made a request for deletion, but this request was undone by an administrator acknowledging the legitimacy and knowledge of the person.

Wd-Ryan (talkcontribs)
2804:D45:C278:D00:74FF:7AA5:B0C4:4A0B (talkcontribs)

@Wd-Ryan I understand that for a global level it is difficult to say that she is notorious, but for her city, state and country she is. We have information on volunteer projects, notability in local media and for the public in her community she is well known. It would be very important in her quality in the wikidata project for these people.

2804:D45:C278:D00:74FF:7AA5:B0C4:4A0B (talkcontribs)

@Wd-Ryan It's an appeal that I'm making you in your approval for Camila Samara de Souza.

2804:D45:C278:D00:FCFE:D59E:8A32:B98B (talkcontribs)

Dear @Bovlb @Wd-Ryan, I also leave here some media sources that Camila Samara came to be noticed, being them national and international. Maybe that way it can clarify some notability about it even internationally.

https://www.hojeemdia.com.br/especial/clinica-de-estetica-em-bh-camila-samara-oferece-tratamentos-personalizados-para-o-corpo-e-bem-estar-1.863654

https://revistaexclusive.com.br/revista-online/edicao-102-sororidade-empreendedorismo/ (page 16)

https://youtu.be/xUErt5StX40

https://www.moviemeter.com/celebrities/3740192/camila-samara

https://www.moviemeter.com/celebrities/3765652/camila-samara

https://www.binged.com/person/camila-samara/

https://www.lavanguardia.com/peliculas-series/personas/camila-samara-3740192

https://filmow.com/camila-samara-a683683/

https://watch.plex.tv/person/camila-samara

https://www.themoviedb.org/person/3765652-camila-samara

Wd-Ryan (talkcontribs)

All of these identifiers are user-generated and seem to be created recently. One even links to the Commons image that was deleted... I'm not budging, so your last option is to file a final appeal on WD:AN, as described in the guide to undeletion. But remember, Wikidata isn't the place for promotion or SEO hacks.

2804:D45:C278:D00:FCFE:D59E:8A32:B98B (talkcontribs)

@Wd-Ryan all? he is sure? how to explain these links that are from last year.

*https://www.hojeemdia.com.br/especial/clinica-de-estetica-em-bh-camila-samara-oferece-tratamentos-personalizados-para-o-corpo-e-bem-estar-1.863654

*https://revistaexclusive.com.br/revista-online/edicao-102-sororidade-empreendedorismo/ (page 16)

Wd-Ryan (talkcontribs)

The identifiers, not the news articles, sorry. Identifiers are things like social media accounts or actor pages, such as on TMDB.

2804:D45:C278:D00:FCFE:D59E:8A32:B98B (talkcontribs)

@Wd-Ryan I don't know about this issue of identifiers, I don't even know the degree that this brings, but just by searching her name on google, all these sites that have reference to her are located, I thought that with this I could help you understand her notability. The only thing I can find from her by searching on google since she participated in a Brazilian film.

Wd-Ryan (talkcontribs)

You've gone through many accounts and IP addresses which have been globally blocked just to add this person onto various Wikimedia projects: 187.111.28.10, Samaraqgb, Rauljuliasoarez, 2804:D45:C278:D00:FC71:BBE0:B0D3:69AF, Alicealmeidamuniz, Thiagostreet

You will simply continue to be blocked with your actions undone if this behavior persists. Despite what you may have heard, Wikidata and the Wikipedias do NOT tolerate this, and it does not work for self-promo. If you'd like, start a post on Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard.

2804:D45:C278:D00:29AD:BBFF:C11A:3BE6 (talkcontribs)

Dear @Wd-Ryan, I appreciate the suggestion of appeal, but I must inform you that I am unaware of these creation attempts, very different from what I am trying, following the rules of the wikipedia project and its derivatives. I should note that I am not the only one trying, as mentioned in the histories published here, to question you administrators about this public figure.

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can you please restore this deleted player

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Summary by Bovlb

Undeletion declined

94.235.38.36 (talkcontribs)

can you please restore this deleted player

https://mubi.com/tr/cast/sefercan-tarlak-1

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm13790501/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

https://sinematurk.com/kisi/257928-sefercan-tarlak

https://www.beyazperde.com/sanatcilar/sanatci-974766/

Bovlb (talkcontribs)
Lymantria (talkcontribs)

I don't see a reason to undelete. The mention in IMDB is about 2 appearances as one of the over 4,000 "actors" in a tv series. That does not convince me.

hello can you restore the person who was this deleted player

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Summary by Bovlb

Undeletion declined

Ayaz cansever (talkcontribs)
Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Thanks for getting in touch. This appears to be a reference to Q110084282 and Q109883164, both created by indefinitely blocked User:Ozercanhati, and both deleted by @ Lymantria. I'm not sure why you're contacting me here, as this is a matter for the deleting admin to address in the first instance.

Lymantria (talkcontribs)

Hi, Sources presented were not included in the deleted items. But IMHO they are not serious and independent sources, but more like advertorials. I see no reason to undelete.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)
Summary by Bovlb

Undeleted

DecafPotato (talkcontribs)

Hello! You deleted Q114771888, an item that I just didn't get the chance to expand yet, and it would be helpful if you could restore it. Thanks!

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

I have undeleted the item for you. Next time, please don't leave it so long. When I deleted it, you hadn't touched it in over half an hour.

DecafPotato (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I just got distracted. But thank you!

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

No problem.

PLEASE RESTORE THIS CREATION Q115126366

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Josiahroberrto (talkcontribs)

Hello Bovlb, I created thisQ115126366 with total ignorance of whether it has been created and been deleted by someone else in the past and will like to kno how I can can another possible creation of this onne related to Q115126366 .


Please, I need your help and guidance as I truly need this panel created ASAP


Thanks!

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Hi! Thanks for following up. It's a funny coincidence, but you composed exactly the same (poor) 36-word description as the previously-deleted item. It looks like both of you may have plagiarised from an nyweekly article. (Or maybe that article is plagiarised from somewhere else.)

Why it is so urgent that this item be created? You joined the project three days ago, and your only contribution has been this recreation of a deleted item. Isn't there some other way you could contribute?

Anyway, you'll need to take this up with the original deleting admin, who is @Rzuwig. See also Wikidata:Guide to requests for undeletion. Good luck!

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