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Bus/Tram Stop Names in Austria

Hello. I edited a few Stops to the names like you can find it in the ÖBB Timetables (Webapp & Scotty App) for using it on https://traewelling.de/ for manualy check-in Stations. (May I have to redo Q132017279 because it only shows "Rodaun" in traewelling (eaven afer edit) Salios11 (talk) 14:01, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

No pb, but keep in mind that https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Label/de asks for the simpler form if it exists Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 18:39, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Airport patrionage

Hi. Thanks for adding patrionage/passenger numbers on Icelandic airports. It also so happens that you added graphs based on those onto Icelandic Wikipedia, example. I am wondering, if you are willing to update pages like commons:Data:Chart Reykjavik airport.tab (one page each per airport) on a yearly basis to keep these charts alive? Snævar (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, I indeed used to keep up-to-date airport data thanks to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bouzinac/Fr%C3%A9quentations : there was queries that checked if airport lacked of data for year X and you could easily see which one was not uptodate and modify it.

Now that the Graph (with ability to live-query wikidata P3872) has been removed (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940) and there is now the "Chart" extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Chart it requires a datafile, instead of a query. Thence, the maintainability is about 0%. I wonder if with a datafile 'Airports of a country X' could be queryable to show only aiport Y or all airports of country X. It was perfectly possible under Graph eg https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_a%C3%A9roports_les_plus_fr%C3%A9quent%C3%A9s_en_France#Graphiques

Wondering if they are trying to make wikidata query work within Charts (if so then datafile would be unuseful). So I am afraid I cannot help on building and maintaining ONE file per AIRPORT (perhaps more easy to maintain and curate with ONE file per COUNTRY). Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 06:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

I've asked a question there https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Chart/Project#Wikidata_usage Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 06:35, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

I think there have been hints in the last few weeks from the Chart team that indicate that Wikidata will be usable with Charts. Your first argument seems like the strongest one, but it does not matter now. Snævar (talk) 19:35, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Snævar, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9roport_de_Reykjavik#Statistiques not sure if it's a good Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 19:51, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Filling multilanguage labels would be very useful

Hello,with great interest I saw you added railway services, railway lines and stations. This is very useful because these services and railway lines appear automatically in wikidata-based station infoboxes in the different wikipedia languages. For example the lines and the services are present automatically in Dutch wikipedia station articles with a wikidata infobox !

Now that there are multilanguage labels, can you fill them language-neutrally, like these examples:

multilanguage "Politeama" for Politeama railway station Q97848738

multilanguage "A" for line A Q97848738

multilanguage "C" for line C Q104125920

multilanguage "Pau - Tarbes - Toulouse" for Q123856819 (I suggest using spaces between them to make clear it are different stations)

multilanguage "Auch - Colomiers - Toulouse" for Q123856798

That avoids not showing them in other languages (or showing a "-") and it avoids a lot of work for people having to fill in the labels for all other languages.

Thanks a lot ! DovaModaal (talk) 14:36, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Diplomatic mission

Hi. You erroneously re-added a building class in place of another building class that was removed with a reason (see Talk:Q213283). Diplomatic mission is an organization not a building. Respective building classes that you might be looking for are embassy building (Q131149704), chancery (Q2750585) or ambassador's residence (Q47163308). --2001:7D0:81C2:5980:287E:AD67:1D5:30AF 17:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

F Market stops

The F Market is not considered part of the Muni Metro system, which only includes the J, K, L, M, N, S, and T light rail lines. It is considered a separate historic streetcar service (as was the now-discontinued E). The map you added as a reference here does not indicate that the F is part of the Muni Metro system. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:32, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

ok Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 18:39, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

You might want to correct the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1137818#P16 Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 20:05, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

a geographical hint

regarding Q135002918 and others, Munich (Q1726) is in Germany, not in Austria. best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

You are right Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 09:26, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Lossetalbahn

Hi Bouinac, you created Kassel-Waldkappel railway line (Q114437150) but there is no station with that name ?! Maybe it is not a station but a line, identical to Kassel-Waldkappel railway line (Q802506) ? -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 09:38, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi, was probably a then-unseen typo from OSM as this object https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19498427#map=16/51.28653/9.58036&layers=T, so probably a good idea to merge with the other Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 09:45, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Done. -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 11:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Tram stops in Magdeburg

Hi Bouzinac, you added lots of tram stops in Magdeburg. These entries are missing several infos, I added five infos (en+mul label, de+en description, P131) to some stations but expect you to work all these items, see e.g. Mariannenstraße (Q135315609). I expect every tram stop to have this informations. -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Karlsruhe tram line changes

Hi Bouzinac, I noticed that you changed several items of the Karlsruhe tram network, in particular regarding line 3. Here, you changed the terminus from Rappenwört to Rheinbergstraße. Are you aware that this was only a temporary change from October 2024 to March 2025 that is no longer in place? If not, please refrain from changing tram networks you are not familiar with.

Of course, your edits are not strictly wrong and could be saved by appropriate qualifiers. However, I think it is not feasible to represent every line change that only lasts fore some weeks. This would clutter our data to much. (This year alone, there are at least 9 significant temporary network changes in Karlsruhe, I think.) In any case, the removal of the correct value in favour of an only temporarily (and not currently!) valid value is a change for the worse.

Btw, your merger of a tram stop item with an item concerning a line junction was also wrong.

I am grateful for any help with translating and cleaning up the tram items, but please don't make substantive changes that you are not sure about. Thanks! --Entbert (talk) 12:34, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I was updating according to this source. https://www.kvv.de/fileadmin/user_upload/kvv/Dateien/Fahrplaene_Netzplaene/Schiene/KVV-Liniennetzplan_Schiene.pdf

There is no tram tracks (probably for time being/works) currently in Rappenwört so I think the changes are currently reflecting the realty, and yes should be corrected whenever necessary. Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 12:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, the network map shows the tram lines as they operated in December 2024. You are right that there is no tram service to Rappenwört at the moment, but line 3 has terminated at Europaplatz, not Rheinbergstraße, since March and currently terminates at Tivoli (see this map). But please do not implement the network from that map into Wikidata. This would pretty much effect the data from every single stop, only for a change that lasts for some weeks. (By the way: The tram tracks in Rappenwört have been in place throughout. OSM might be misleading in this respect.) --Entbert (talk) 13:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, networks evolve time to time, there is even a good page watch for such changes : https://www.urbanrail.net/news.htm Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 13:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

And it appears that Map of Karlsruhe Stadtbahn (query) is not uptodate, eg with this

Q123644355#P5817^{(Q123644355#P5817)} Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 16:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

The KIT-Campus Nord station ist still served by S 1 services. Nothing has changed there timetable-wise. Only the network map was changed to no longer include route sections only served during rush hour as this one. --Entbert (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Wembley Central station

Hi, I saw that you were the one who split off Q107059191 (mainline and Overground parts) from Q801594 and then make a half-baked (see last sentence) attempt to dedicate the latter to the Underground, I guess to bring it in line with the French Wikipedia? I don't think that makes much sense. As noted even in the French article, the Underground shares platforms with the Overground, while the single entrance and its ticket barriers are shared by all services. There is no separation of ownership either: the whole complex for all services is owned by a single entity, Network Rail, who delegates the operation of the entire thing to another, the Underground. Observe further that in most languages aside from French the descriptions and linked Wikipedia articles on Q801594 are not exclusively about the Underground. Astro.furball (talk) 10:01, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I did not create frwikis Wembley Central (métro de Londres) and Gare de Wembley Central. They do indeed seem to be about the same station, but their separation make sense as they do not belong to the same network. Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 10:53, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

I understand that you didn't create the Wikipedia articles – just speculating that maybe you were inspired by that. Not important.

Stations from different networks that share names and provide interchange often do have separate Wikidata items, but they, importantly, usually have mostly separate infrastructure.

An illustrative example of de-conflation done well based on actual facts on the ground IMO are the items for Shibuya Station in Tokyo: There's an all-encompassing mother item, and it has three parts despite having four major operators, because two of the operators (Tokyo Metro and Tokyu) share platforms and through-run with each other. The other two operators have their own areas separated by hundreds of meters of corridors, so it absolutely does make sense to have separate subitems for them.

Contrast that with Wembley Central. The current separation scheme here is untethered from how the station actually operates – the mainline and the Overground are grouped together for some reason, even though it's the Underground and the Overground that share platforms and immediate parent (TfL), while the mainline has its separate platforms and trains run by organizations that are independent of the TfL. And as mentioned, they all share the rest of the station. Yet there isn't even a parent item encompassing both "parts". Again, most Wiki projects don't make a distinction between the "parts", yet they've been linking all this time to a Wikidata item that's been unilaterally split without due consideration. Astro.furball (talk) 04:31, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I perfectly understand your point of view, but the fact is that there is one wiki that distinct-ed them. Other examples a bit relevant to your sayings : look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_foot&route=55.760392%2C37.626924%3B55.759894%2C37.627804#map=19/55.760139/37.627554&layers=T : you can see many Moscow subway stations very close to each other so they could have been one subway yet they are called differently/separated, and linked by an "uzel"(node). There is no "mother" station in Moscow items (or perhaps one or two) : so they only have this https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q677658#P833.

For Wembley, I suspect frwiki did disctinct because the railway station was founded 1842 with "Sudbury" name before there was a subway service 1917.

So there is two solutions, a mother item (collecting all but frwikis, which I don't like) or a demand in frwiki to merging the two frwikis. Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 05:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

It's one thing when the operator or the infrastructure owner dictate connected boarding areas to be separate stations (and note that in your example at least there is a clear separation between the two platform areas). It's quite another when the "de-conflation" is dictated by a minority of Wiki projects with no accommodation for other projects that don't adhere to that separation. In editing this comment I will say that it's more than just frwiki; for example some projects have only one article that only mention the Underground, or Underground + Overground. Maybe I should bring this up to Interwiki conflicts instead. Astro.furball (talk) 21:56, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

Of course you can, but don't forget Wikidata has too its own rules. Simply request a merge of the Wembley items with "merge" tool Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 05:04, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Tram lines in Vienna

Comparing Vienna's Tram network as modelled in Wikidata and OpenStreetMap, I found a few things that you could probably do quicker with your QuickStatements workflow:

• Tram line 1 (Q17348925) is not taking the direct route around the city centre, but via Oper/Karlsplatz U (Q132177208), Burgring (Q132176982), Ring/Volkstheater U (Q132177252), Parlament (Q132177216), Rathausplatz, Burgtheater (Q132177236), Schottentor (Q132177276), Börse (Q132176966), Wien Schottenring (Q132177275), Wien Salztorbrücke (Q132177262), Wien Schwedenplatz (Q132177282)
• Tram line 2 (Q47545833) is taking the route via Burgring (Q132176982), Oper/Karlsplatz U (Q132177208), Schwarzenbergplatz (Q132177280), Wien Weihburggasse (Q132177342), Wien Stubentor (Q132177314), Julius-Raab-Platz (Stubenring) (Q132177117)
• Tram line 5 (Q20439827) stops also at Mariahilfer Straße/Kaiserstraße (Q132177172) in one direction
• Tram line 6 (Q47545889) is missing its northern part to Burggasse-Stadthalle (Q132176981)
• Tram line 9 (Q47545921) is also missing its northern part to Wallrißstraße (Q132177054)
• Tram line 25 (Vienna) (Q47563867) is missing two stops at its northern end: Hoßplatz (Q132177096), Floridsdorf S+U (Schloßhofer Str.) (Q132177033), Floridsdorf S+U (Franz-Jonas-Pl.) (Q132177030), Floridsdorf S+U (Schleife) (Q132177032)
• Tram line 37 (Q47566702) could have these items of the same stop combined to not need to model these as one-way station (Q108667555): Hohe Warte (Q132177094) and Hohe Warte (Q135427335)
• Wien Sensengasse (Q132177287) is missing as a stop after Spitalgasse (Q132177302) when heading to Wien Schottentor (Tiefgeschoß) (Q132177277)
• Tram line 43 (Q47630223) is missing its eastern section to Schottentor (Q132177276)
• Tram line 44 (Q47630524) is missing its stop at Ottakring (Q132177209) when heading to Schottentor (Q132177276)
• Tram line 46 (Q47631053) has a hole at Wien Thaliastraße/Haberlgasse (Q132177321)
• Tram line 18 (Q47563623), Tram line 71 (Q42297591) and Tram line D (Q901027) are missing its routes completely

--HLFan (talk) 12:29, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Revert

Hi @Bouzinac! Can you explain why you reverted one of my edits? QwertyZ34 (talk) 17:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi, because of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Default_values_for_labels_and_aliases#When_should_I_use_default_values_for_labels_and_aliases? Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 17:59, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

My bad, thanks for telling me QwertyZ34 (talk) 18:10, 22 November 2025 (UTC)