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TomT0m (talkcontribs)

It seems that in 2007 you merged Q17519152 … it’s unfortunate because you merged this with an item that is supposed to represent groups of physical objects. So now a dictionnary or a computer program are supposed to be groups of physical objects …

It’s a part of the mess I want to clean up on this topic

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

No "group of objects" was the item with whom I merged it and it had the description "multiple objects of any nature considered as a set". It's any nature and not just physical objects. You added the information that it's supposed to be a physical object in 2018 a year after the merge and created the mess. I switched it again from "concrete object" to "object".

TomT0m (talkcontribs)

Mmm I don’t remember why I did this but there was probably a reason. Maybe the simple interwiki who lists physical groups ?

The history of multiple merges is a little bit scary to me and makes hard to fully follow what happened over time.

But sorry, it seem to be my mistake.

Anyway, I don’t really like the habit of subclassifying « group » for anything that could be vaguely seen as a collection, it’s too abstract. A sofware is supposed to be a series hence a group (of executed instruction I guess) … a mathematical class/set is probably supposed to be a group either …

My feeling is that using this item in statements is more a source of confusion than order.

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

I don't have a strong opinion of where it should be used exactly. At the point where I made the merge we had two items with the same meaning and thus it made sense to merge them.Software currently doesn't subclass series and I don't they a strong reason why it should.

TomT0m (talkcontribs)

You’re right, it’s not software who subclasses it, it’s « computer program » (see the screenshot I did starting the work)


The link between the two is that a computer program may be regarder as a class of all the executions (computer process) that are generated by it. An execution of a program is a sequence of instruction, someone subclassed « routine » with it, which is a subclass of « series » which is a subclass of « group ».

(I made the mistake of taking « software » as a synonym of « computer program » which is wrong because the software of a computer is defined as « all of the intangible components of a computer », so datas are software as well)

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

I don't have strong opinions on the ontology of software at the moment. Feel free to work on bringing order into it.

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