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Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Oravrattas (talkcontribs)

@Jura1: can you explain a little more what you mean by "nonsense" or "dups" here?

I'm currently adding position held (P39) statements for people being a member of 50th Federal Assembly of Switzerland (Q21511406), and I did filter out anyone who already had such a statement. The most recent one added, for example is Hugues Hiltpold (Q121172) — there is an existing statement that says he has been a member of the National Council since 2007, but giving details of his most recent membership, including the parliamentary group (P4100) and electoral district (P768) does not seem to be nonsensical to me, and is adding different information to what is in the existing statement. Both statements are sourced, and, best I can see, neither source includes the superset of both statements.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

There is generally just one statement for the position. This unless the person held several non-consecutive terms.

Oravrattas (talkcontribs)

No, as per previous discussion on this very topic, the preferred model is to have a separate position held (P39) statement each time something significant changes. This is the model used by the existing Political projects for the United Kingdom ("Each discrete term in office is given a different statement, with a new one assigned whenever there is a definable break in service; for example, if … Parliament is dissolved"), France ("à répéter pour chaque mandat"), Germany (" wobei grundsätzlich jede weitere Amtszeit als neues Statement hinzugefügt werden soll"), and widely adopted across Wikidata:WikiProject every politician. This allows for much richer information than a single, combined, P39 statement with a single start time (P580) and end time (P582): in most cases, each change in parliamentary term (P2937) will also have require a distinct elected in (P2715) qualifier, the sources will often be different (in many cases, there will be a distinct official URL for each term's membership), and in many countries the parliamentary group (P4100) will strictly be a new entity in each term. You have argued against this approach before, but the consensus has been against your approach.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

I take note of your disagreement with Wikidata's current approach, the running of an unapproved bot, and handling of discussions with quality issues of your contributions.

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