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Hi ChristianKl. Can you create properties about classification on Wikidata:Property proposal/Event. It lacks these properties to continue the different fonctions on Module:Cycling race.

I see three issues:

① It's not clear to me that the solution of having multiple different "best X classifications" is better than a solution that uses a qualifier.

② The properties currently have the name copied in the description instead of a description that explains what the property is about.

③ The domain is defined quite narrowly and the language of the property names is more broad.

Hello, and sorry to hijack this discussion. The request is pretty much the same. Creating sports properties. Would you mind initiating Wikidata:Property proposal/DLV ID?

@Thierry Caro I created the property. Given that you do care about the sport properties what's your opinion on the classification properties? Should there be a solution where every classification get's it's own property?

I honestly don't know. There is a feeling that this should be done in another way. But how? Unfortunately, I don't know!

I'll come back to read all the discussion in the coming days.

I created https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55267 as basic example of how a qualifier example might look like (names aren't well chosen).

We already have properties for classifications of stage, general, points, teams by time and teams by points. Functions have been developped as fr:Modèle:Cycling race/pointsclassification, fr:Modèle:Cycling race/teamsclassificationbytime, fr:Modèle:Cycling race/teamsclassificationbypoints. There is no reason to use a different process. So you can create them and I will ask to our users to make the translations and enter datas.

The fact that you claim there's no reason to use a different process suggest that you don't understand why Thierry and myself have a feeling that the presently proposed solution isn't optimal.

If you want to convince other people it's useful to try to understand first where they are coming from.