Talk:Q159

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Autodescription — Russia (Q159)

description: sovereign state in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia
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Russia is used as nationality for people dead before 1991-12-25
Items with country of citizenship (P27) equal to Russia (Q159) and date of death (P570) before 1991-12-25 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P27 wd:Q159 . ?item p:P570/psv:P570 ?node . ?node wikibase:timeValue ?born . ?node wikibase:timePrecision ?precision . FILTER (?born < "1991-12-25T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) FILTER (?precision >= "9"^^xsd:integer) }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/Q159#Russia is used as nationality for people dead before 1991-12-25
Russia is used as born place qualifier value for people born before 1991-12-25
Items with country (P17) qualifier of place of birth (P19) equal to Russia (Q159) and date of birth (P569) before 1991-12-25 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item p:P569/psv:P569 ?node . ?node wikibase:timeValue ?born . ?node wikibase:timePrecision ?precision . ?item wdt:P19 ?bornPlace . ?bornPlace pq:P17 wd:Q159 . FILTER (?born < "1991-12-25T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) FILTER (?precision >= "9"^^xsd:integer) }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/Q159#Russia is used as born place qualifier value for people born before 1991-12-25
Russia is used as death place qualifier value for people dead before 1991-12-25
Items with country (P17) qualifier of place of death (P20) equal to Russia (Q159) and date of death (P570) before 1991-12-25 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item p:P570/psv:P570 ?node . ?node wikibase:timeValue ?dead . ?node wikibase:timePrecision ?precision . ?item wdt:P19 ?deathPlace . ?deathPlace pq:P17 wd:Q159 . FILTER (?dead < "1991-12-25T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) FILTER (?precision >= "9"^^xsd:integer) }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/Q159#Russia is used as death place qualifier value for people dead before 1991-12-25

Adjective[edit]

I see demonyms on the country pages with some linguistic features like gender and number. Can we add also adjectives? Like Россия->российский, Russland -> russisch We can build a bot that adds at least Russian labels. Does it sound good? Sokirko (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where to add? --Infovarius (talk) 04:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with "is a"[edit]

Hi, I cannot change the "is a" property which links to q4209223 with the right one which is Q44918. It keeps on giving me an error... --Viscontino talk 19:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I managed to change it. --Stryn (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

unresponsive script[edit]

In my firefox browser the page won't load completely. It complains about the following unresponsive script: " https://bits.wikimedia.org/www.wikidata.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki%2CSpinner%7Cjquery.triggerQueueCallback%2CloadingSpinner%2CmwEmbedUtil%7Cmw.MwEmbedSupport&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=20130415T141616Z:40 " 130.91.186.10 19:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This item needs a bug submission, because it's evidence that Wikidata is going to have problems scaling, and that we should be more careful in our property usage I think. --Izno (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shares border with[edit]

I'm new to Wikidata, so I prefer checking here before making any changes, in case I have misunderstood something, but this item currently states that Russia shares a border with Japan and the US. However, the property shares border with is defined as "countries or administrative subdivisions, of equal level, that this item borders by land" [my emphasis]. Russia does not share a land border with Japan nor the US. --Ehn (talk) 21:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. If there is consensus at this point, I am going to remove US and Japan (and, reciprocally, Russia from those items).--Ymblanter (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should rather change the description of P47 and add "instance of maritime boundary" as a qualifier. --Zolo (talk) 07:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with me.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good! -- Lavallen (block) 04:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I tried adding this qualifier for the Japan border, but that triggers a property scope constraint. --Ehn (talk) 00:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Ehn, @Ymblanter and @Lavallen. Now the property shares a border with talks about borders "either by land or water". Should we add again USA and Japan? --Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 15:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a strong opinion on this, as long as everything is consistent. If the definition of P47 is now stable, items should be updated accordingly. --Ehn (talk) 00:41, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Russian constitution in English[edit]

While, it is certainly desirable to have the Russian text in citations, it is true that an English version would be useful too. So I am wondering, is there some "official", or at least citable English version of the constitution ? That way, we could probably use it as a supplementary reference ? --Zolo (talk) 10:02, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about official translations of constitution, we should ask the Kremlin. Besides, do you confirm that citation should be in original language? Infovarius (talk) 11:11, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, there is: http://eng.constitution.kremlin.ru. So should we add additional citation? And why only English? Infovarius (talk) 11:14, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think the quote needs to be exact, and thus needs to be in the original language, but translations can be useful (not only in English but English is probably the most useful and the easiest to find). I think that should be sth like:
claim
stated in: Constitution of Russia. Quote: quote in Russian
stated in: Constitutution of Russia (English translation by XX). Quote: quote of the English translation by XX.

But in this case, I think we need to wait for the IRI datatype, so that we can link the translation to the source where it was taken. --Zolo (talk) 11:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-Russian Federation statements[edit]

I'm pretty sure this item is supposed to be about the modern state, the Russian Federation, which does not include its predecessor states. As such, I propose removing/modifying statements about the country's predecessors, such as the UN member start date of October 24 1945, the earlier foundation dates of the foundation of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and Kievan Rus', and the capital's establishment in 1918. --Yair rand (talk) 01:29, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure about the Kievan Rus, but modern Russian Federation is a legal successor (and the only one) of the Soviet Union, so that I personally have no problems with the establishment of the capital in 1918.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
А что подразумевается под современным государством? Только конкретно, потому что это реально проблема (в принципе многое в Википедии указано не совсем корректно и не ясно как это сделать). Насколько я понимаю, ситуация такая. Если разделять периоды по лишь формальной смене названия страны (то есть 25 декабря 1991 года), то тогда современная Россия 1 день находилась в составе СССР (и до лета 1993 года использовала советские рубли), а потом всё равно оставалась советской республикой с Верховным советом, советом министров вместо правительства, и т.п. Принятие новой конституции? Так ведь не менялся ни президент, ни перечень регионов РФ. А если брать дату самороспуска СССР (26 декабря 1991 года), то это вроде бы бессмысленно, т.к. суверенитет РСФСР был объявлен гораздо раньше (и соответственно с выходом страны из, например, Евросоюза она же не станет новым современным государством). И если, формально говоря, российские власти захотели войти в СССР в 1922 году, так самостоятельно из него и вышли (опять же как, например, из Евросоюза), то о каком новом государстве идёт речь? Как действовали уголовный и жилищный кодексы РСФСР, так и продолжили действовать несколько лет даже после принятия новой конституции. Что касается российской столицы, то с 1918 года (СССР ещё не существовал) она не менялась ни юридически (если столица появилась в декабре 1991 года, то где же Ельцин находился прошедшим летом?), ни физически (а, например, Минск и Киев всё-таки были оккупированы по время ВОВ). Если говорить об ООН, то в Сан-Франциско Устав подписали Белоруссия, Украина и СССР. С первыми двумя всё понятно, там вообще ничего не изменилось с 1945 года по сегодняшний день. А что касается России, то на официальном сайте ООН так и указано, что вступление было в 1945 году, хотя РСФСР в тот год не подписывал Устав. Раз ООН признаёт такую сложную конструкцию с правопреемством, то почему в Викиданных надо использовать что-то другое? Это будет оригинальное исследование, потому что Россию в 1991 или в 1992 году в ООН никто не принимал. Если опять подходить формально (а иначе будет ОРИСС), то СССР прекращал своё существование, и не пропадать же добру, поэтому РСФСР, помимо своего груза, взяла на себя груз другой страны - целиком советские зарубежное имущество, долги и место в ООН. Эти две параллельные истории теперь объединены в одном государстве - современной России, при этом надо помнить, что РСФСР как суверенное государство с 1990 года не прекращала своё существование, а просто была переименована. А вот на законы Российской империи сослаться, к сожалению, не получится, и тут мы и получаем дату вот этого разделения. Она же используется в Википедии и Викискладе при выяснении авторских прав. --TarzanASG (talk) 16:29, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ну, я вроде примерно это и предложил.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Да.)) Только надо убедиться, что нет возражений, что это понятно на всех языках, что это правильно воспринимают боты, а затем привести статьи на разных языках к единообразию фактов и ещё разобраться с категориями. По многим темам статьи странно объединяются в категории - в одну категорию свалены и какие-то современные, и дореволюционные вещи, потому что и то, и то как бы "Russia". Из-за вышеизложенного не понятно на каком основании существует категория Category:History of Russia (1992–present) (то есть она должна быть без передачи места в Совбезе ООН и без создания СНГ, кроме того, в 1992 и 1993 годах Россия ещё не была президентской республикой), а в рувики в такую категорию включают "статьи по истории России после августовского путча 1991 года" (то есть без включения суверенитета, без нового гимна, избрания президента и всего прочего). И как ботам (хотя я без понятия) понимать категорию про Category:Politics of the Soviet Union 1917-1991, когда "main category topic" в 1917-1922 годах ещё не существовал. Надо начать общее обсуждение на мета-вики о том как что называть и куда относить события, тогда и будет понятно что есть "Pre-Russian Federation". --TarzanASG (talk) 05:09, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When Boris Yeltsin is the FOUNDER of Russia, it cannot be that a date of its foundation is from before him being active as a politician. It is elementary logic RobotGMwikt (talk) 07:44, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congress of People's Deputies of Russia[edit]

I have removed "Congress of People's Deputies of Russia" because it shows in the Spanish Wikipedia without any explanation about it being obsolete. Wadim (talk) 10:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's a problem of Spanish Wikipedia. --Infovarius (talk) 22:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

German demonyms[edit]

The article currently states that the German demonym is Russländisch. However, that is just the adjective for the country, not the word for a person from Russia. Demonyms in German are:

  • Russe (male, singular)
  • Russin (female, singular)
  • Russen (male, plural)
  • Russinnen (female, plural)

Maybe someone with editing rights can update that? Thanks. --109.91.21.82 07:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear to me whether the property is supposed to be for adjective or the noun. The description in English says it's supposed to be for the adjectival form. Jc86035 (talk) 08:10, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Population[edit]

I've taken predictions on future population out of Property:P1082. As far as I can tell, Russia is the only Wikidata entity to use future dates in population statistics, and it seems a strange thing to do. I'd not be opposed to its inclusion, but I don't think it should be under P1082 - perhaps under a "population projections" property? Naypta (talk) 18:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

why did yeltsin resign on december 31 1999?[edit]

he was to be president until may 7 2000?

yes, he was; most likely to find favour with putin to keep him safe from prosecution for unaccounted riches he had ammsssed from public sectors!

{{Editprotected}} Source for Q159#q159$872C77AC-6C1B-43E4-9132-03526D0DEFB1 doesn’t seem to be enough neutral. 217.117.125.83 12:30, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Link doesn't work. What claim do you mean? --Infovarius (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Infovarius:
Его Jkalmo удалил ещё 7‐го.
217.117.125.83 11:06, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Size of Russia, with Crimea?[edit]

The size of Russia seems to include Crimea. If we look at what Encyclopædia Britannica writes, it is 17,075,400 km² (see this article).

If this is the case, then it should be corrected. There are only a handful of countries that acknowledge that Crimea belongs to Russia (see "Pro-Russian stances on Crimea"). Ulflarsen (talk) 13:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

English article[edit]

English article is not good now. Luckich (talk) 18:33, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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