Property talk:P291

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place of publication
geographical place of publication of the edition (use 1st edition when referring to works)
Description Place of publication
Represents place of publication (Q1361759)
Data type Item
Template parameter en:Template:Cite book (location)
Domain
According to this template: work (Q386724), specifically edition (Q3331189) of a given book (Q571)
According to statements in the property:
edition (Q3331189) and film (Q11424)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values places: human-geographic territorial entity (Q15642541) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example Le petit prince (Q15942359)New York City (Q60)
Tracking: usage Category:Pages using Wikidata property P291 (Q23909075)
Lists
Proposal discussion Property proposal/Archive/3#P291
Current uses 28,381
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Type “edition (Q3331189), film (Q11424): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “edition (Q3331189), film (Q11424)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)).
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P291#Type Q3331189, Q11424, SPARQL
Value type “human-geographic territorial entity (Q15642541), computer network (Q1301371), film festival (Q220505): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human-geographic territorial entity (Q15642541), computer network (Q1301371), film festival (Q220505) (or a subclass thereof).
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P291#Value type Q15642541, Q1301371, Q220505, SPARQL




Alias[edit]

I removed the English alias "location" from this property, because I am concerned that when people are looking for a "geographical location" property they will get this property as a result, and not look any closer. I've seen this happen with similar setups like "parent taxon" being used for "parent" (which we don't actually have). Espeso (talk) 20:04, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok. (I've just added it, because "location" is used by the templates.) --Kolja21 (talk)

First editions only?[edit]

Is there a reason this needs to be restricted to first editions? Can qualifiers simply be used to indicate subsequent editions if it they are notably published in a different location? If not, then perhaps the label should be changed to 'place of first edition publication' to better identify this limitation. Joshbaumgartner (talk) 06:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

My feeling is that this is going to be extended, as I just did, for publication in those instances. See Q3303832 for example. I think the limitation exists more for books than anything else. --Izno (talk) 16:52, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I am going to change this, there is no limitation for books as long as the "place of publication" is used in the right "edition item". See Wikidata:Books task force for more details.--Micru (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Use as qualifier[edit]

This property is occasionally being used as a qualifier to publication date (P577). (For example, Q11168.) Is this correct? --Yair rand (talk) 12:54, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Probably more correct. Seems to me that a new edition of a text could be published elsewhere... but I guess that use case for us is covered since we create a new item. --Izno (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2015 (UTC)