Property talk:P149

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architectural style
architectural style of a structure
Representsarchitectural style (Q32880)
Associated item
Data typeItem
According to this template: architectural structure (Q811979)
According to statements in the property:
architectural structure (Q811979)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesart style (Q1792644) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleNotre Dame de Paris (Q2981)French Gothic architecture (Q2245347)
Tracking: sameno label (Q55283016)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q55283010)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P149 (Q20117430)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q55283014)
Proposal discussionProperty proposal/Archive/1#P149
Current uses57,516
Search for values
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Value type “art style (Q1792644): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value art style (Q1792644) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Value type Q1792644, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Type “architectural structure (Q811979): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “architectural structure (Q811979)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Type Q811979, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
if [item A] has this property (P149) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history.
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Contemporary, SPARQL
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)


Could we also broaden this to use for architects who work predominantly or solely a particular style? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:08, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

  • I'm going to go ahead and make this change, as the genre property is being applied to people as well as works, and this is analogous. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Dangerous mix / des choux et des carottes[edit]

English: I think that there could be a risk in allowing objects of this property to be a structure or an architect. One day, if we request for all items for which style is Art nouveau, we will get a completely heterogeneous list, that we will have to intersect with other properties another property. I wonder if we should have here 2 distinct properties: has the style and practices the style
Français : Je pense qu'il peut y avoir un risque à mélanger le type des objets possibles pour cette propriété : structure ou architecte. Lorsqu'on va faire des requêtes pour savoir tout ce qui est de style Art Nouveau, on se trouvera avec une liste complètement hétérogène, qu'il faudra intersecter avec une autre propriété, en espérant qu'elle soit bien instanciée pour tous les éléments pour avoir une liste exploitable. Je me demande si nous ne devrions pas avoir ici deux propriétés différentes : est de style et pratique le style.
--Gloumouth1 (talk) 22:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Should not cause a problem, the correct way to query and get the expected results would be to select items with GND = geographical feature and architectural style = Art nouveau.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danrok (talk • contribs) at 14:47, 19 May 2013 (UTC).
Shuld be, unless P107 (P107) is deprecated and scheduled for deletion. /ℇsquilo 08:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Confusion with P31 (instance of)[edit]

It’s not clear to me whether to use this property (P149) or P31 (instance of) for buildings. I see the phrase “xxx building is an example of yyy architecture” — which to me suggests that I should use 'instance of'.

Also, since most of the architectural styles are in the form “Name architecture”, it feels redundant to say “Architectural style: Neoclassical architecture” (for example).

Any advice would be helpful. —Hawke666 (talk)

instance of (P31) is (ab)used for a lot of claims. A building can have half a dozen of P31's based on use and structural type, let's not put more into it when this property is available. /ℇsquilo 08:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Merge with P:P135[edit]

I would like to propose to merge this property with movement (P135). The only difference beteween the two properties is that architectural style (P149) is restricted to some classes of items but that does not seem very useful, and in practice, p135 is used for buildings as well anwyway (compare fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata/P149‎ and fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata/P135). --Zolo (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I have added this property to Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion. --Zolo (talk) 11:26, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
no consensus was reached on Wikidata:Properties for deletion so I closed the discussion. --Pasleim (talk) 10:03, 11 August 2015 (UTC)